I use Opera-10 and it works fine. I don't get any updates stuff(unless I manually update) and I don't know what popups you are talking about(even after you can block them for sites).Regarding compatibility, Opera now works with 99% of the sites. Yes, with some sites it breaks then you can use chrome for example for those sites. What I liked most about opera is per site configuration flexibility.(I block flash on all sites except sites like youtube). Regarding firefox - clear your cache,history -- any browser with deep history(even chrome - check their bugs) will come to a crawl. And regarding dbus and all - they don't slow your system. And when you are on battery on mobile/laptop stop the dbus daemon :) , nothing breaks(assuming you are not running compiz, fancy gui stuff et.al. which you shouldnt when on battery) One more thing - regarding chrome - dont store any serious passwords on it yet... this is because passwords are stored in PLAIN TEXT(unlike firefox/opera) in the SQLite database(under ~/.config/google-chrome/Web\ Data) . I asked the chromium devs - they said it will be fixed in next milestone. Chrome, I think, with same webkit rendering will overshadow following two browsers, Midori . Arora On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Arvid Picciani <aep@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > thank's for the first serious response... > > > Rogutės Sparnuotos wrote: > > With what you wrote above - no, no options. >> >> It sounds like you dump software as soon as you encounter any annoyance. >> > > point, sadly the annoyances usually come in large bulk as feature > "improvements" together with crucial updates, i actually want. Hence i > figured i want a browsers that is NOT based on the idea to make everything > WORSE. > > > Wouldn't it be wiser to workaround them, since annoyances (or small bugs) >> are always part of everything? >> > > i do that up so some degree where the workaround consumes more time then > stealing my girlfriends mac. Ie the ff workaround was avarage 1 day fixing > time each update since they managed to introduce workarounds for my > workarounds. > > > I guess writing a browser could teach one >> to live with bugs... >> > > yeah.. > > > I am sure you can disable those popups in opera (or stay with 9.64 for the >> time being, if you like opera). >> > > yeah thats unfortunately just one minor nuisance out of so many "features" > they add. and the older versions cant render web 2.0 crap. same lemma. > Again what popups? > Also since i used chrome i got spoiled by its simplicity (which they > managed to remove now in the latest version by adding more of those all so > useful "features"). > > > > What kind of I/O activity do you see with Firefox? >> > > disk i/o. It's flush() in a busy loop, says kernel wakup debuging mode. > well my kernel debugging skills are limited. > i solved it by sticking .mozilla on a ram disk. that worked until the next > memory leak bug, then kswapd died out the disk. I tried then mounting > .mozilla to vaporspace but it would just make ff crash constantly, so i gave > up. > > > How do you measure it? > > iotop. powertop. strace. > > > I don't see any problems on my side. >> > > no one does. the bug got rejected as "can't reproduce". which propably > means "buy a bigger disk faggot. everyone nowadays runs kde/vista/whatever" > bleh... > > ff always used an entire core, which i care less about because i have > another, but since i use chrome i got used to leaving my browser open. > > oh did i mention firefox now depends on dbus? > Call me whatever you want to, but i actively refuse to run any software > that starts user space dameons that starts user space dameons that start a > power consuming poll loop on my bluetooth device until either laptop or my > mobile phone die. > > IgnorePkg = dbus dbus-core gconf dbus-glib > > solves ALOT of power and network related problems. > Also it helps me choosing good software by ruling those out that think they > need to do _everything_ when i just wanted _one thing_. > > > > What sites were incorrectly rendered with webkit? >> > > ebay.de did. now it works. dunno who fixed it. > but you got a point there, it's been a while since i tried webkit. maybe it > improved significantly after chrome opensource'd. I'll try one of these > webking thingies again. suggestions? um actually i know, uzbl. will report > back if it still sucks as much as it did a few months ago. > > > Also, there's dillo. Small and fast, but no CSS floats, no javascript. >> > > the bad part is actually no javascript. since most sites are now unusable > without. ( and with, but meh) > > > -- > Arvid > Asgaard Technologies >
