On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Ciprian Dorin, Craciun <ciprian.craciun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Allan McRae <allan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Ciprian Dorin, Craciun wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Xavier <shiningxc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Ciprian Dorin, Craciun >>>> <ciprian.craciun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Sven-Hendrik Haase <sh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ciprian Dorin, Craciun wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have ArchLinux i686 version, but I'm trying to compile an x86_64 >>>>>>> kernel... And you've guessed... Not supported by the ArchLinux stock >>>>>>> gcc / binutils... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've done the "raining" dance, by trying to compile my own gcc / >>>>>>> binutils, but it didn't "rain" (I mean it didn't work)... Any >>>>>>> pointers? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Ciprian. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P.S.: Is there any good reason for which there isn't even a >>>>>>> separate package of gcc that is able to do this? (I've read the bug >>>>>>> from one year ago, but no good reason was specified...) >>>>>>> P.P.S.: I'm missing Debian... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Arch users generally prefer a clean 32bit/64bit chroot to a "dirty" >>>>>> system >>>>>> and have therefore developed tools to make chroot creation really >>>>>> convenient. You should try it too - get the devtools and try >>>>>> "mkarchroot". >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Sven-Hendrik >>>>> >>>>> About the reason I've read it and somehow understood it. Also >>>>> mkarchroot is quite nice (in fact the reason I'm struggling with >>>>> kernel compilation is for a Vserver deployment)... >>>>> >>>>> But back to the problem at hand: I cannot use a chrooted Linux, >>>>> because in order to use x86_64 packages I need a x86_64 enabled kernel >>>>> on my laptop (which I don't). So actually I need to cross-compile the >>>>> kernel. >>>>> >>>>> Now I've seen that in the default repository we have gcc for >>>>> crosscompiling for arm. Why not one for x86_64? >>>>> >>>>> Anyway thanks for the pointer of mkarchroot! (It would help me in >>>>> deployment of virtual servers.) >>>>> >>>>> Ciprian. >>>>> >>>> Why do you want to build the kernel ? Arch already provides it ! All >>>> packages are provided in both i686 and x86_64 >>>> >>>> http://allanmcrae.com/2009/06/using-an-x86_64-kernel-on-an-i686-userland/ >>> >>> Good question. Well the reasons could be multiple: >>> >>> * first of all the real reason is that I want to compile an x86_64 >>> kernel for one of my servers that I want to use as VServer hosting >>> target; but my laptop has ArchLinux i386, and I don't want to either >>> install x86_64 ArchLinux on my laptop, or on the server itself just to >>> be able to compile the kernel; >>> >>> * second cross-compiling is one of the basic operations one should >>> be able to do in an development environment; >>> >>> * third I believe that the real power of OSS / FOS (and therefore >>> also Linux based distributions), is that it allows you the flexibility >>> to customize things to match your liking; furthermore I've switched >>> from Debian (which also provided everything I needed and even more), >>> to ArchLinux (which provides almost everything I need), because I've >>> seen ArchLinux as a more suitable target for experimenting with Linux; >>> (I hope I'm not wrong!) >>> >>> By the way: I'me preparing three custom packages: >>> cross-x86_64-gcc-base, cross-x86_64-binutils, and cross-x86_64-glibc. >>> Anyone interested in them? Any ideeas if someone has already done >>> this? >> >> FYI, I thought packages that dod that were already in the AUR. >> >> Allan > > I haven't found one... I've already searched the AUR for "gcc" and > the only entries that resemble what I need are: > * http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28545 (gcc-multilib); > * http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31547 (cross32-gcc); > But both of them are for crosscompiling an i686 from a x86_64, > while I need the reverse. > > Could you please give me the exact URL from those packages? > > Thanks, > Ciprian. The saga is over!!! Binaries available at http://www.kernel.org/pub/tools/crosstool/ I've created a small package that installs that. See bellow. Ciprian. ~~~~ _build=gcc-3.4.5-glibc-2.3.6 pkgname="cross-x86_64-${_build}" pkgver="${_build//-/_}" pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="Cross-compiler binaries" arch=('i686') license=('GPL') url="http://www.kernel.org/pub/tools/crosstool" groups=() depends=() makedepends=() options=(!'strip' !'libtool' !'emptydirs' !'docs') source=("http://www.kernel.org/pub/tools/crosstool/files/bin/i386/x86_64-${_build}.tar.gz") md5sums=('1093a4fae1fc14f53b82633b6f92b033') build () { mkdir "${pkgdir}/opt" cp -RaTv "${srcdir}/${_build}/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu" "${pkgdir}/opt/${pkgname}" } ~~~~