On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:17:38 -0600 Dan McGee <dpmcgee@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Dieter Plaetinck > <dieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:31:20 -0600 > > "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Listmates, > >> > >> New drive for my laptop so I dedicated it to Arch. Net install with > >> 2009.08 went fine (although there really should be a warning when > >> you leave install WITHOUT configuring the bootloader). > >> [the /arch/setup menu autoadvances when you leave Configure System > >> and if you click Done and downarrow anticipating moving to the > >> next item, you can easily miss configuring the bootloader (I > >> did ;-)] > > > > arch is not, was not and will never be a hand-holding distro. > > if anyone doesn't pay attention and just skips steps it's that > > persons own problem imho. (in fact the interactive installer already > > does too much handholding) > > So he maybe came up with an answer to the wrong problem. Problem as > stated: "there really should be a warning when you leave install > WITHOUT configuring the bootloader" > and problem as I read it from the context: > "the installer auto-advances so it is really easy to hit quit on > accident if you were expecting to have to hit down and enter" > > You can't possibly justify the second stated problem as a hand-holding > mistake, unless you mean we shouldn't even auto-advance. A simple > confirm quit dialog would solve the issue here as people would quickly > realize they missed a step. > > -Dan well, even if you didn't expect the auto-advance behavior, i still expect users to read the name of the option before they activate it. trying to detect/recover from silly user errors such as not doing that is what i call hand-holding. that said, a simple confirmation dialog would add only 1 line of code, so if someone sends the patch (or files a feature request) it can be done. Dieter