On Friday 16 October 2009 06:11:10 am Guus Snijders wrote: > 2009/10/16 David C. Rankin <drankinatty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > On Thursday 15 October 2009 06:06:15 pm David C. Rankin > > [...] > > >> Maybe a brake-through I managed to get a strace of startx. While the > >> strace was running, I had a sustained X session with a small xterm in > >> the top-left corner of the display. I couldn't do anything with it and X > >> crashed at the end of the strace session, but hopefully the information > >> I captured will let a archlinux X guru solve the riddle. The strace > >> output is here: > >> > >> http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/supersff/strace-start > >>x.t xt > > Though i'm far from being any guru , i did notice the following lines: > > 472 (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) > > 476 FATAL: Module fbcon not found. > 477 Setting master > 478 record: RECORD extension enabled at configure time. > 479 record: This extension is known to be broken, disabling extension now.. > 480 record: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20500 > 481 > 482 waiting for X server to shut down Dropping master > > (the numbers are the linenumbers). > > Could it be that it's just trying to load the wrong video driver? > > > > mvg, > Guus > Well (yes and no), that's what I thought, but evidently the fbdev error isn't the show-stopper. It is expected and normally doesn't cause problems. The fbcon is the Biggie!. But that is now some compiled into the kernel magic that I'm pretty much at a loss to deal with. I installed xf86-video-fbdev and the fbdev error is gone, but as others correctly said, that wasn't the problem. The only thing I am 100% certain of at this point is there is a problem somewhere because the box worked great up until I did the update on 10/8 and I haven't seen kde since... I'm sure it's something simple that just needs to be fixed in the kernel or in one of the modules. But I am equally sure that it will take someone much smarter than I on the kernel or module at issue to do it :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com