Guys, Just a note. Most of you are probably a bit younger than I am, but for those with kids who have reached computing age (3+), there are a few kde4 themes and tricks they may really enjoy. The kde4 themes are: Ghost Carbon Neon Glow by FRUiT A thin theme for the adults is "seamless" (just grab the clock from 'Stripeshine' and it really looks cool - see links below) The Desktop Effects that my kids enjoy are: Explosion (or Fall Apart) Magic Lamp explosion and fall apart make the windows shatter into pieces when they are closed and magic lamp makes the windows look like they are being sucked into a magic lamp when they are minimized. A few links that I found helpful for tweaking themes: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/Theme http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Theme That's my informational post for the day :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com