On or about Tuesday 02 June 2009 at approximately 16:12:17 Vinzenz Vietzke composed: > Isn't your approach similar to > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HAL#Permission_Denied ? Or am I > totally wrong? No, you are right! That's what I read through before throwing 90% of the specific stuff mentioned there out the window in favor of the brute force approach. The problem with the solutions on the page is they appear to be shooting at the moving target of the kernel/d-bus/hal/policykit "standard setup". Wading in a bit you soon realize you can set up an infinite (almost) set of policies by applying different pieces of the policy at different levels of the scheme. Some can be applied at the hal level others at the policy kit level, etc. I picked apart the suse scheme looking at their solution and there just wasn't a "standard" setup. You can accomplish the same thing 5 different ways when you add user and group memberships, the deny/allow configurations and on and on. For a single user machine (my laptop in my case), I just want things to work when I plug them in. I want drives automounted and I want removables recognized. I don't care for the elaborate multiuser policies that may apply and be useful, in what? -- 5% of all installs. So you are not totally wrong, I did make good use of the wiki, then politely threw 90% of it out ;-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com