On or about Thursday 14 May 2009 at approximately 07:23:37 Damjan Georgievski composed: > > (2) Add yourself to the wheel group in /etc/group. Example, in > > /etc/group: > > > > wheel::10:root,david > > it's best not to edit the file by hand. > You can use the "usermod -G wheel -a david" command for that. Hmm Damjan, I may have been doing it wrong for a while now ( about 9 years ). My understanding was the only sudo related file you should not edit by hand was /etc/sudoers and that is why we have visudo. I haven't heard that editing /etc/group by hand would cause problems. In fact, that is the way I keep my GIDs the same between installs. I just have my normal groups and users copied from my original /etc/group that I copy to all new installs. (that about 10 groups with about 12 users sprinkled between the groups) I've never had a problem. What is the concern with editing /etc/group by hand? The group man page doesn't even reference usermod as a way to manipulate group associations. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com