Listmates, After installing kde3 with "pacman -S kdemod3-complete", I was rearranging and ordering the kde menu with 'kmenuedit' and ran across a number of duplicate entries created during the install. The following isn't a complete list, but probably catches 80-90% of the duplicate entries. The following were each duplicated one (or more) times by the installer in various places within the kde menu: KPalmDOC KPilot KNotes KArm KAlarm Kandy Xgnokii KNotes Dictionary KTnef Korn Kontact KDE Groupware Wizard I don't know who does kdemod3, but if it will help, I have gone through and removed most of the duplicates and sorted the kde menu into a few additional folders to get rid of the ton of files that were under 'utilities' and I have also moved all the packages in the catchall 'More Applications' and 'Lost & Found' folders to new homes in the menu. I have put a copy of the new ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu on the web site if anybody wants to grab pieces from it or compare it to the original. http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ArchLinux/fixes/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu HTHs, if not, just hit delete... No troll comments necessary or appreciated. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com