David Rosenstrauch wrote: > David C. Rankin wrote: > \> OK, I must be suffering from a cranal rectal inversion. I'm > missing something >> basic that must be right in front of my nose. >> >> Currently, kdm is running: >> >> [18:22 archangel:/etc/X11/xinit] # ps ax | grep kdm >> <snip - several more kdmflush entries> >> 830 ? S< 0:00 [kdmflush] >> 833 ? S< 0:00 [kdmflush] >> 3498 ? Ss 0:00 /opt/kde/bin/kdm >> 4917 pts/2 R+ 0:00 grep kdm > >> Now startx starts an x session and I get a black background with a >> white xterm >> in the top left corner of the display (approx 320x200) on my 1680x1050 >> display. >> The mouse works and I can move into the xterm, but it looks as if >> something is >> running (no prompt, but the block cursor is busy), and then about 30 >> seconds >> later, X shuts down normally and I am back at the command line. >> >> Another symptom is that when startx is use, there is no KDE, just >> the xterm >> and black background. When /opt/kde/bin/startkde is used, no xterm >> appears and >> the following output is received: > > > Try this: > > * kill the kdm instance (if any) > * kill the X instance (if any) > > You should now be at a command line. > > Instead of starting everything using "startx", use "/etc/rc.d/kdm start". > > If that doesn't work, pls post back the xorg log. > > DR > With the '3' mod Damn that is a good looking desktop!! Woohoo! Success! Only 1 caveat, ksplash caused a signal 11 SIGSEGV, no backtrace because gdb wasn't found. I guess I need to install it. Cool -- somebody else sets menu hiding as default for konsole. One question, "how do I get the colors back for the shell?" You know the file colors that show different different file types and permissions when you do an 'ls -al'? DR, thanks a million. Now, how do I create the permanent config that will allow me to boot into runlevel 3, and still access kde when I need it? Obviously, I could just -- do nothing, and then call "/etc/rc.d/kdm3 start" when kde was wanted, but is there a better "Arch preferred" method? For always booting to kde I understand from your prior help that kdm3 in the MODULES in rc.conf is an option as well as creating runlevels 3 and 5 in inittab. I can setup the inittab, but I don't want to have build custom runlevels /etc/rc3.d /etc/rc5.d and all the Sxx and Kxx scripts if that can be avoided. Also, why does my kde3 install have the kde4 look and feel?? It has the dull grey window decor on all apps?? I'm just wondering if this is a side effect of loading k9copy and it pulling in the kde4 runtime base as a dependency. What say the gurus? Again, thanks a *lot* for all the hand holding that was required to get me up and running with kde. I think most of the problem was due to the stuck kdm process that I guess was created when I tried to start kde with ../rc.d/kdm3 while I had a bad xorg.conf. Lastly, are there any Arch Linux specific gui tools I should be aware of? Like for package config, etc.. Now to -- kick the tires a bit on this Arch Linux kde3 desktop... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com