On Dienstag, 10. März 2009 19:49 Aaron Griffin wrote: > If the default group of some of these devices should be changed (looks > like tun should be in the network group by default), please file a bug > report Oh, i don't know if tun should have this permissions or if the file mask 666 is needed from another application. Until udev-139 this was my way and that is the reason why i recognized it. I'm only wondering that nothing from rules.d or permissions.d is used for creating this device. The loop devices at example has the same permissions as in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions. If this is bug i can write a bugreport but from my side it is not necessary that everyone in arch use my setup.-) See you, Attila