On Friday 23 January 2009, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Alberto Gonzalez <info@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Gstreamer has its problems, but it's used by all the gnome people (most > > Ubuntu/Fedora users and more) so it's can't be that bad. Not as to not > > allow users to use it if they want to. > > I'm fairly certain Pierre is not saying "screw choice!" here. It looks > to me like he's saying "oh god, this is WAY too buggy and I don't want > our users using something this broken". That said, i'm sure the > PKGBUILD will still be around somewhere, so anyone who wants to can > still build the package themselves "I don't want our users using something this broken" is not a good idea, IMHO. No one is going to use it unless they want to. They have to actually install it and configure KDE to use it. Why remove this _option_? I'm sorry that Gstreamer doesn't work for Pierre, but for many others it does (while xine doesn't, for other reasons I already mentioned). So what I say is: If the phonon developers allow to use different backends, let's just don't limit them for no good reason (a good reason would be more like: "compiling support for Gstreamer breaks Xine", not "I don't like Gstreamer, it doesn't work for me". As I said, it's not like Gstreamer is an obscure or experimental multimedia framework, it's probably the most used one in the Unix world, so it can't be that bad for everyone).