Thanks Aaron, Xavier and Jan, I thought -d, like -f, wouldn't work with remove... but it does, that's just what I needed! Software rendering is slower than with the nvidia drivers ... but at least the machine doesn't freeze when I log out/switch user. It will do for now! Steve 2008/10/24 Jan de Groot <jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 01:34 +0100, Stephen Wilkinson wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> I have both xf86-video-vesa and nvidia-96xx installed, but I have >> issues with the proprietary drivers, so I wanted to try out vesa with >> libgl. >> >> I can remove nvidia-96xx, but trying to remove nvidia-96xx-utils flags >> lots of conflicts. I was going to use pacman -Rc but that would mean >> uninstalling (and later reinstalling) lots of packages... and I'm >> thinking there must be a quicker and more elegant way about this. >> >> I was wondering if there's a way to force removal of nvidia-96xx-utils >> and ignore the dependencies since libgl will satisfy them anyway. (I >> know in general it would not be a good idea for pacman to allow >> this...) >> >> I tried pacman -R --force but that doesn't work (--force is not a >> removal option). >> >> I thought about forcing the installing of libgl with -f instead, but I >> thought it would be neater to remove nvidia-96xx-utils first >> (otherwise I will have problems later when it comes to delete either >> package?) >> >> Any thoughts on this would be appreciated! >> >> Steve > > Vesa driver doesn't support DRI and/or OpenGL, so you'll end up with > software rendering anyways, no matter what you do. > >