On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 06:13:52PM +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: > On Saturday 30 August 2008 17:52:15 Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > > Please not vim, since if you don't know vim, you very fast get stuck. I > > just installed and tried vim, and first it beeped on any key pressed. Then > > somehow it stopped, and I could not exit instead. I tried CTRL-C > > CTRL-C...., and it said ":quit to exit", but it did not work either. So > > "killall vim" was the way to exit. Yes, madness is the right word. > > > > nano is more logical. Everything you type inserts, and i has a menu at the > > bottom always. So you can figure out he first time. > > > > vim is a speciality editor, since you need to know it to use it. emacs is > > similar there. Both require you to learn it to do even simple things. And > > when installing a system, you need something so that you can edit the files > > to get started. For a novice there should be an editor that is > > self-explanatory, and it appears that nano can work there. > > +1 > i'm an emacs fan, but still i agree nano makes alot more sense for a base > system. Especially becouse it behaves logical. (e.g. ctrl+c) which neither > emcas nor vim do properly. I am a vim user but I do agree that nano is the more convenient way for beginners. Besides that, the version of vim installed with base is compiled with a low fetureset and represents a different package than extra/vim, in my opinion this is very confusing and unnecessary! cheers wakeup -- An Ashanti Proverb from Ghana - It is because of beauty, that is why the woman holds her breasts when she runs, not because the breasts are going to fall -Fela Kuti