El Monday 23 June 2008 18:48:12 Arvid Ephraim Picciani escribió: > On Monday 23 June 2008 16:59:30 Aaron Griffin wrote: > > I agree with Simo and Jan here. While we could easily take the "do it > > yourself" road, I always preferred the "sane defaults" side of Arch, > > myself. That is - install some crap and it works out-of-the-box in a > > pretty decent manner. It's a very small stretch from "sane defaults" > > to "secure defaults". Unless you think sane != secure. > > so this is the official announcment that the vanilla-style-do-it-yourself > for professional engineers and manual readers is no more, and that in > future there will be rather debian-style-out-of-the-box solutions for > those who want it to "just work" ? Do you know Debian?. Debian style isn't "just work". Debian is "just don't touch". If you put a dedicated user for apache in arch, you have a better package, (in my opinion more secure, nobody have another uses), and if you want, you can edit PKGBUILD or httpd.conf for use your settings. I don't understand the problem. A distro by default need a good packages. Use a good config for default is a good thing. why do i use a distro package and not custom package?, because the package have good quality, and a dedicated user for apache is a good thing without need of destroy KISS philosophy of arch.