On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:22:37AM +0200, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > 2008/3/30, Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@xxxxxxxxx>: > > 2008/3/29, Grigorios Bouzakis <grbzks@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 02:12:35PM +0100, Gerhard Brauer wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > i've noticed this meanwhile quiet often after many installations. > > > > Currently after a test with 2008.03-0.3, but also with older ISOs: > > > > > > > > After install and first reboot i got such fsck notice during rc: > > > > > > > > ,---- > > > > | /dev/sda3: Superblock last mount time is in the future. FIXED > > > > | /dev/sda3 has gone 49710 days without being checked, check forced. > > > > `---- > > > > > > > > Here¹ you could download a screenshot from such a situation where also a > > > > reboot is required after fsck. > > > > Cause this is the *first* reboot after installation users will get a bad > > > > impression about Arch. > > > > > > > > First i thought this comes from vmware, but i also get it in virtualbox > > > > and i've seen this also during real installations. > > > > > > > > I have a suspicion: During (c)fdisk and formatting the disks current locale > > > > and timezone is set to US values (don't know at the moment the initial > > > > settings presented in rc.conf). > > > > During configuration i set my locale and timezone always to de_DE.utf8 > > > > and Europe/Berlin. And when first reboot is made that from umounting / > > > > there is a time difference that could cause such and flag it on ext3 > > > > partition? > > > > Or with the order in rc scripts? > > > > > > > > Maybe also that the hwclock is changed during/after installation... > > > > > > > > Have others also seen such? > > > > > > > > ¹ http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/screen.png > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Don't drink and root! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes i used to get that all the time. I think its somehow related to changes in > > > tzdata that happened around a year ago. > > > This only appears if you set the HARDWWARECLOCK to UTC as far as i can > > > tell. > > > Even though i dont have Widnows installed localtime works better for me, > > > no such issues and plus the clock uses the correct time. UTC is 2 hours > > > ahead. > > > > > > Hmmm... > > I thought this was fixed long ago... > > I will try to reproduce the issue in virtual machine. > > It would be nice if you could provide the time set in your BIOS before > > install, output of `date` before and after running /arch/setup and > > after the first install. > > FYI, see http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/5445 I dont remember having trouble at the time of the bug you posted. I think this started happening around the time tzdata was splitted from glibc or/and some changes happened with US timezones. I seem to have a memory of those two events combined with time issues in the back of my head but i cant be 100% sure. I am sure about the following. When installing from a 2007-08* or 2007-11 base/core iso , with BIOS time set properly & set HARDWWARECLOCK to UTC i get what gebra posted in the screenshot. If i set it to localtime it works normally. And as i said before Archlinux is the only OS on this PC. The only way of getting correct time with UTC is having the BIOS time set to actual time -2 hours. Setting USEDIRECTISA to yes or no doesnt affect anything of the above. Greg