On 20 Jan 2008 20:09, JJDaNiMoTh wrote: > http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174 > KDE 4.0 != KDE4 ... and devs of arch know it :) This comment sums up the posting, which seems to be a bit of magnet for those who want to point how untidy the 4.0 release was... http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174#comment-7091 The original canonical posting about 4.0, for anyone who might have missed it, is... http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html pacman 3.1.1 will be out in a few days (I presume) and that will help the next KDEmod4 release, KDE 4.0.1 will be out in maybe 2 weeks with a first round of fixes and Qt4.4 will be out in about 8 weeks and that will enable plasma to be far more complete around KDE 4.0.3. --markc