I see this didn't reach the list because I used my internode address, will re-post. Thanks for replying, I did search the forums extensively,and of course tried your suggestion, but that file is not installed. Regards Richard On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:15:09 am you wrote: > as for the virtualbox problem. run as root, "vbox_build_module" then > reboot. > > richard terry wrote: > > did system upgrade and X wouldn't boot. Tried re-configuring no luck. > > > > Downgraded back 1 kernel and all works again, except virtual box won't > > appear (though the processes are running). > > > > Don't know if it's my laptop (has ati video card in it). > > > > Any explanation/help/hints