I made a guess that the was a slowness in some part of Openssl, so tried changing the following in my httpd conf SSLCipherSuite removing +HIGH:+MEDIUM did not make much diffrence. p.s my SSLRandomSeed startup and connect are builtin regards Matthew J Fletcher ********************************************************************** Serck Controls Ltd, Rowley Drive, Coventry, CV3 4FH, UK A company registered in England Reg. No. 4353634 Tel: +44 (0) 24 7630 5050 Fax: +44 (0) 24 7630 2437 Web: www.serck-controls.com Admin: post@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx A subsidiary of Schneider Electric. ********************************************************************** This email and files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the above. Any views or opinions presented are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Serck Controls Ltd. This message has been scanned for malware by Mailcontrol. www.Mailcontrol.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx