thanks for your replies and your time. now that I know it is impossible to do, here is what I was trying to do: I was trying to avoid having to float a form handler in php or w/e to grab the form POST data - <form method="POST" action="blah.shtml" name="SampleForm"> and grab $POST (if it were available) from the ssi blah.shtml and be happy with the form data. I could only wish for $POST or $POST_STRINGS data since $QUERY_STRINGS exists for GETs. I understand the 30MB of the uploaded file part, for folks who were sure that their POST DATA was in few KBs or even less, that would have been great>. if such a thing were available, I won't need php/cgi form handlers - a simple ssi would do. oh well, thanks again. >Andre is also correct in your question not making sense! --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx