Thank you Mr. Gingras! It was the command namei -m that did the trick to helped diagnosis this problem (a command I had did know and now I do). This was after reading the very helpful http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/13PermissionDenied # namei -m /home/dev/sites/project_site.admin.8085/web/admin/index.php f: /home/dev/sites/project_site.admin.8085/web/admin/index.php drwxr-xr-x / drwxr-xr-x home drwx------ dev drwxrwxrwx sites drwxr-xr-x project_site.admin.8085 drwxr-xr-x web drwxr-xr-x admin -rw-r-xr-x index.php Changed directory home/dev to mode 755, and all was well. Jeff in Seattle -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Sorry%3A-Trying-to-Diagnose-403-Error-tp23260116p23261503.html Sent from the Apache HTTP Server - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx