I agree about latency and have tested for that all the way to Europe and Asia. I did find a latency of 31ms from my server to over 700 miles. I think the worst I saw was still under 1 second. Since my packet size typcally is under 1500 bytes 31msec is very much not an issue at this point but the number requests at the server is my focus. Thanks, -Tony --- Michael Conlen <m@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Tony, > > The performance numbers you are talking about are > going to be > irrelevant over any but the fastest local links, > particularly using > TCP. RTT below 30ms are going to be rare within the > US and even on a > very good tier 1 provider (Verizon/Qwest) directly > you're not going > to get much better. > > I think you've got yourself locked in to an idea of > how to solve a > problem without either a measurable problem or the > right idea of a > solution. > > In your situation your solution might be to setup a > caching proxy > server on port 80 with apache and tomcat on > different ports and use > the proxy server to handle the requests. It should > be able to handle > static content with much less resources than Apache > can. At this > point you can tune apache down to the bare minimum. > As latency is > very low it shouldn't need many processes to serve > all requests. > Further if Apache isn't necessary for anything you > could serve the > static content from Tomcat and cache it in memory on > the proxy. > > -- > Michael Conlen > > On Sep 28, 2007, at 2:40 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > I would agree except the current audience using my > > portal is from all over the world so performance & > > size of data is critical. Also with an upcoming GA > > release the inital audience may be higher than a > > million or so and grow hopefully quickly from > there. > > The system is using an RIA client to reduce the > stress > > on the servers but the goal is to have the worlds > > fastest least expensive portal. > > > > I have already gotten comments from clients > thousands > > of miles away from the server of how the > performance > > is such that the clients think the data from my > server > > is faster than off a local hard drive. > > > > That only happened because of the performance was > > considered as important as the functionality and > still > > is as you can tell. > > > > Good point for most systems. > > > > Regards, > > Tony Anecito, Founder > > MyUniPortal > > > > > > > > > > --- Jeff Beard <jeffb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Tony, > >> > >> I agree with Joshua: quite complicating things > for > >> yourself. > >> > >> It sounds like you are trying to solve a > performance > >> problem of some sort > >> but speaking from experience those are highly > >> dubious pursuits unless you > >> have a very, very well qualified issue. > Otherwise, > >> it's purely academic > >> IMHO. I don't remember where I read this but the > >> rules for performance > >> tuning are something along the lines of: > >> > >> 1. Don't > >> 2. Don't yet (for experts only) > >> > >> My advice, don't worry about performance until > there > >> is a qualified > >> performance issue (i.e. one identified by a > >> customer/end user) and stick > >> with the Apache/mod_jk/Tomcat reverse proxy > >> configuration since it's an > >> industrial strength solution. > >> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Jeff > >> > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: jslive@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:jslive@xxxxxxxxx] > >> On Behalf Of Joshua Slive > >>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:04 AM > >>> To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Subject: Re: Tomcat and Apache on > >> the same port? > >>> > >>> On 9/28/07, Tony Anecito <adanecito@xxxxxxxxx> > >> wrote: > >>>> I have a web site with static content on it. My > >> router > >>>> has only one static ip thus one url and port. > >>> > >>> Quit complicating your life. There are at least > >> three easy solutions > >>> to your problem: > >>> > >>> 1. Tomcat CAN serve static content. So just use > >> tomact and forget > >>> about apache httpd. > >>> > >>> 2. Use a standard apache httpd+tomcat install. > >> Lots of people do this > >>> and it is plenty performant and not that > >> complicated. > >>> > >>> 3. 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