JoshuaI had not forgotten you dismissive attitude to this subject. I may not have raised it here again except:
1 The wording of the message I replied to appeared to invite such a reply.
2 Despite many attempts over several months I have failed to get this facility working on the Apache supplied with, and somewhat embedded in, my new Xserve. Apple have not yet moved to Apache 2 and the third party module for Apache 1 is no longer being supported. I was going to manually upgrade to Apache 2 and accept the loss of the useful Apple interface when other work pushed this aside. Since the release of OS X Server 10.5 is imminent I will wait and see if it includes Apache 2.
I am afraid you are very much mistaken about how widely PAGE_COUNT was supported not so many years ago.
I also question your implication that it would affect performance even if not switched on. I can see no harm in providing this as part of Apache with whatever warning you wish about performance if it is activated.
From memory the list of default Apache environmental variables is so short that it would do little harm for Apache to extend it to meet the needs of customers. Many of these would have virtually no performance implications and other could come with a warning.
From the way that you dismiss some writing to this list I am not surprised that few have the courage to make such points.
Neville At 11:12 -0400 26/09/2007, Joshua Slive wrote:
On 9/26/07, Neville Hillyer <n.hillyer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:At 03:11 -0500 26/09/2007, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >There are ways using mod_env to provide other values you desire >withouta blanket gap in security. The value I "desire" is PAGE_COUNT and I would be grateful if you could tell me how to obtain it without scripts or third party modules. Prior to Apache's dominance this was provided as a user option by many web servers.Wow, you're still going on about that one. We discussed this issue back in April. The "many web servers" that offered this feature seems to be a set of one: Quid Pro Quo for Mac (mid-90s, pre-OS-X). There may be others, but they don't turn up in any basic search. I already outlined why this kind of feature is a bad idea in the first place. It doesn't provide useful information but has significant performance implications for a busy server. Finally, apache is designed as a modular and extensible server. If you don't want to use any third-party modules or add-ons, you have only yourself to blame for missing features. Joshua.
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