Re: Help with Apache 2 problem on AIX 5.3

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Yes - for crazyness' sake, rename the file you wish to update and drop
a replacement file in it's place.  See if the filesystem acknowledges
you are serving a different file.

You might also look at EnableMMAP off which can sometimes have very
similar symptoms to EnableSendfile.

Bill

Coulter, Ryan wrote:
> I spoke too soon about "EnableSendfile off" not working. Upon creating a new
> file to request, and having set the NBC back to it original size, the new
> file is not exhibiting the problem, and it would appear that it is not being
> added to the network buffer cache. The old file is still cached somehow, and
> I will have to address that problem when necessary (a server reboot at the
> very least, should resolve it).
> 
> So, Apache 2 on AIX 5.3 seems to require the "EnableSendfile off" directive,
> and this should be done during the initial configuration, prior to starting
> Apache the first time.
> 
> Does anyone have anything else to add?
> 
> Thanks again,
> Ryan
> 
> 
>> From: "Coulter, Ryan" <rcoulter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:03:45 -0500
>> To: <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Conversation:  Help with Apache 2 problem on AIX 5.3
>> Subject: Re:  Help with Apache 2 problem on AIX 5.3
>>
>> Thank you, Eric. I had tried this in my experiments as well, without much
>> luck. However, your comment led me to a page
>> (http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/httpserv/ihsdiag/questions.html) which
>> described the network buffer cache in AIX and its association with AIX's
>> send_file routine. What is baffling me now is that setting "EnableSendfile
>> off" does nothing to alleviate the problem, but if I set the network buffer
>> cache size to 0 (no -o nbc_limit=0), the problem goes away. I consequently
>> tried setting it to 0, setting "EnableSendfile off", restarting Apache and
>> then setting nbc_limit back to its previous setting. The problem returned,
>> even with EnableSendfile turned off. As long as the network buffer cache is
>> set to 0, I don't have any problems.
>>
>> So, at least I now know what seems to be the general source of the problem,
>> but does anyone know how to correct the behavior of EnableSendfile?
>> According to the page referenced above for IHS, this directive should
>> prevent Apache from using send_file and consequently prevent any static file
>> from being added to the network buffer cache. But that doesn't seem to be
>> the case in my experience today.
>>
>> Any other thoughts?
>>
>> Ryan Coulter
>>
>>
>>> From: Eric Covener <covener@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:41:27 -0400
>>> To: <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re:  Help with Apache 2 problem on AIX 5.3
>>>
>>> On 8/27/07, Coulter, Ryan <rcoulter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>  (My apologies for sending this earlier with no subject.)
>>>>
>>>>  Hello. I am stumped by a problem I'm having with Apache 2 and IHS 2 on AIX
>>>>  5.3. I have tried this scenario with both a custom compiled Apache 2.2.4 as
>>>>  well as IHS 2.0.47. In both cases, the behavior is identical. Using Apache
>>>>  1.3, I don't have the problem. I have been researching the problem for
>>>>  several days, but can not find any issue that describes the behavior I'm
>>>>  seeing. The problem is as follows:
>>>>
>>>>  I request index.html from the webserver and receive it properly in my
>>>>  browser. I then log onto the server, edit the file with vi, save it and
>>>>  exit. Then I return to my browser and request index.html again and it
>>>>  appears as though nothing has changed. My edit does not show up. Sometimes,
>>>>  after making an edit, I try to open the page in my browser and receive a
>>>>  message that the browser couldn't reach the server.
>>> Try disabling sendfile (EnableSendfile off) or asking AIX support what
>>> it takes (apar-wise) to get AIX to recognize a change in the
>>> filesystem when sendfile is enabled.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Eric Covener
>>> covener@xxxxxxxxx
>>>
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