Some additional info -- when Apache is running normally (for example, during the middle of the day), we can issue a manual '/etc/init.d/apache reload' and it will work fine. The problems seem to arise some percentage of the time when it tries to run from cron.daily's calling of logrotate/postrotate. Thanks-- Brian J. Cohen Intercarve Networks, LLC 914.552.1274 [cell] Brian Cohen wrote: > We are running Apache 1.3.34. > > On our Debian 4.0 system, each night cron.daily runs logrotate. > Logrotate's postrotate script runs `/etc/init.d/apache reload` (no > errors on stderr). When it is successful, top shows all apache children > go <defunct>, then apache restarts. But more often than not, all but 2 > or 3 apache children die (without top ever showing <defunct>), the pid > file is removed. Those 2 or 3 apache children continue to live and > accept connections, but won't serve any requests. Since the pid file has > been removed, we have to issue a `killall apache`, then > `/etc/init.d/apache start` > > The net effect is pretty fatal. If we're not around when it happens, > Apache remains effectively down until we come around to clean it up. > > Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx