Apache/2.2.3 on windows not shutting down

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My windows GUI app is starting apache and needs to shut it down before
it exits.  I have tried following the manual:

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You can tell a running Apache to stop by opening another console
window and entering:

httpd -k shutdown

This should be preferred over pressing Control-C because this lets
Apache end any current operations and clean up gracefully.
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But it does not work.  Does anyone know why?  I know it is better to
run it as a service, but that is not an option for my usage of apache.
I am NOT using the standard httpd.conf, I have also tried sending
this:

httpd -k shutdown -f <path to conf file>

And that does not work either.  Any thoughts?

Sam

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