Re: [users@httpd] Apache 2.2.3 CGI OS 5 Issue under load

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Boyle Owen wrote:
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From: Stan Kaushanskiy [mailto:stan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:16 PM
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [users@httpd] Apache 2.2.3 CGI OS 5 Issue under load

Hi All,

I am running a cgi program through Apache 2.2.3.  Usually everything
works fine,
but sometimes under load and after about 1-2 hours continuous requests,
I get the following error in the apache log:

[Tue Sep 26 19:08:16 2006] [error] [client 192.168.26.155] (OS 5)Access is denied. : couldn't set child process attributes: E:/php/php-cgi.exe [Tue Sep 26 19:08:16 2006] [error] [client 192.168.26.155] (OS 5)Access
is denied.  : couldn't spawn child process: E:/php/php-cgi.exe

[Wed Sep 27 11:25:22 2006] [error] [client 192.168.26.155] (OS 5)Access
is denied.  : couldn't set child process attributes:
E:/cgi-bin/UploadProcessor.exe
[Wed Sep 27 11:25:22 2006] [error] [client 192.168.26.155] (OS 5)Access is denied. : couldn't spawn child process: E:/cgi-bin/UploadProcessor.exe

This error happens with both PHP 5.1.6 as well as with a CGI I compiled
from C++, so it cannot be a php issue.

I have around 50 - 150 clients hitting the server every 10 seconds. The
CGI processes are "long-lived" they take 1 second to 3 minutes to do
their thing.

Probably some statistician could come up with the correct Bayesian
formula for this, but off the top of my head, if you have about 10
hits/sec and each hit takes about a minute to process (mid-point of your
ranges), then every second you add 10 processes and it takes 1 minute
before any resources are free again, so you peak at about 600 concurrent
processes. That seems a lot for a PC...

I would guess that you're simply running out of resources.

I never have more than 150 concurrent connections. I have plenty of RAM free. What resources might I be running out of? Is there any way to find out which resources are the problem?

thanks,

stan

Rgds,
Owen Boyle
Disclaimer: Any disclaimer attached to this message may be ignored.
I have not noticed the lifetime of the cgi processes affecting this
behavior.

When these errors happen the clients get 500 errors.

Prior to 2.2.3 I ran Apache 2.0.52 and the same issues happened.

My Setup:
P4 3Ghz HT
1 GB Ram
Windows XP Pro
Apache 2.2.3

any ideas?

thanks,

stan



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