Thanks for all the ideas everyone! I don't think any of them will quite work for me (I need to have apache on port 443 as well to handle some https stuff; the DAV is a good idea though I want to be able to do more than just change files; and the people who run the firewall are not my clients, but the underlings of the underlings of the bosses of the bosses of my client, and more interested in their policies than in my getting work done.) But maybe I can cobble something together from all your creative ideas. Bob --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx