I am having this exact same problem. I'm also using standard debian packages for Apache 2.0.54, and the prefork MPM, except my MaxClients setting is already set to 512. The minute I hit 513 apache2 processes (listed in "ps -C apache2", the server stops responding entirely. Those processes seem to never close. The only way to fix it is to reload Apache via "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart" This is not just happening at normal high-traffic times. Why is httpd not recovering from this gracefully? I would assume that, when using the prefork MPM, as connections close, the processes would close with them, and the server would then be able to respond to new requests. But those child processes never terminate on their own. Is this normal for Apache? If not, what can I do to correct it? -----Original Message----- From: dan+apache-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dan+apache-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 12:11 AM To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [users@httpd] Why the sudden need to raise MaxClients? We are using Apache 2.0.54 on Debian GNU/Linux (standard Debian packages). The server had been running for several months with absolutely no problems. A couple of days ago, Apache started slowing down, then would eventually stop responding completely. The only way to fix it was to restart Apache. It got to the point that Apache would only stay functional for a few seconds at a time. Watching the Apache logs revealed no unusual activity before the lockup. I discovered the MaxClients setting, which in Debian defaults to 20 for the prefork MPM. I raised it to 100, and the problem went away. I believe the default for this value is normally 256. What would cause this problem all of the sudden? My first thought was a DOS attack. Am I on the right track? --df --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx