Hi all, This may not be an Apache issue but it's related. Perhaps someone here has some input. I'm trying to set up virtual hosts on 127.0.0.* so I can use a front instance of apache for SSL negotiations and proxy back to the heavy-lifting, mod_perl apache when necessary. For security reasons, I was thinking that if I put the second apache on 127.0.0.* then the request would not go out and back in. Apache runs fine on an external address and my config (for internal 127.0.0.*) looks like so: Listen 127.0.0.10:80 NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.10 <VirtualHost 127.0.0.10> (normal vhost stuff here) </VirtualHost> When I start Apache, I get the error: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 127.0.0.10:80 no listening sockets available, shutting down Unable to open logs What am I missing? I'm running Debian 3.1, no iptable rules configured, no firewall. Does anyone else have a setup like this? Thanks in advance, Diona Kidd --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx