Re: [users@httpd] Apache With SBC DSL

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--- Tyler Nally <tnally@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Tuesday 18 October 2005 05:30 pm, Michael Avila
> wrote:
> 
> > Sooo, I need to find out how to work with the
> worse case scenario - that I
> > receive a dynamic non-routable IP address. How can
> people access my site
> > with a domain name if the dynamic address keeps
> changing and it is a
> > private network (192.0.0.0) address? My
> understanding is that the modem has
> > the dynamic non-routable address. If a router is
> next and then the
> > webserver, how can people reach the webserver?
> 
> I've also the same as you... but I don't have a
> webserver at home as
> of yet setup.  The question I can't answer is ..
> whether the Speadstream
> 5100 DSL modem (I think that's what I have) will
> allow a web browser from
> the outside world to connect upwardly into where my
> SBC DSL service is
> provided *to* my computer.  If it won't, then no
> browsing of my machine
> is possible... with current hardware.  If it will..
> then that's sufficient 
> for it to work.
> 
> I know my DynDNS host name that I've made for my
> machine and I can ping
> it from the outside world .. so I know the machine
> is reachable from the
> outside. My hunch is that the DSL modem is a stupid
> modem and does like
> any regular modem in a computer would do... if
> traffic hits it from the
> *internet* side.. it does its magic and sends it off
> to the customer side.
> And if traffic hits the modem from the customer
> side... it then hands it
> off to the internet side.  I'd be surprised to find
> out that the DSL modem
> is smart/configured to block port 80 for web
> traffic.

SBC where I live (eastern WI, USA) does not block any
incoming ports except for 25. Charter (the cable
company) on the other hand, blocks a whole slew of
useful ports (21,23,25,80,110,143,etc.) and is useless
for having a home server (not to mention the dismal
upload speed). If SBC DSL was available at my
apartment I'd take it in a heartbeat.

What you're trying to do here is a piece of cake. Just
set your router to forward all traffic coming in on
port 80 to your webserver, and make sure your
webserver is set to a static internal IP address.
Also, make sure you have the Apache server set up to
dynamically update with your DNS provider. DynDNS.org,
no-ip.com, and ZoneEdit (the one I use) all provide
simple utilities for all platforms to do this for you
automagically. Plus, make sure your listen directive
in httpd.conf is set to listen to that internal IP (or
just use "Listen *:80").

> Now, if the DSL modem won't allow upstream traffic,
> what you *might* have
> to do is get a Linksys/Belkin/etc DSL internet
> router that you can setup
> in the place of the DSL modem that SBC provides in
> order to forward the
> "port 80" traffic that hits this device onto your
> machine rather than
> stopping it right at the DSL entry point device.
> 
> In order for a new device to work, you still have to
> set it up *like* the 
> DSL modem in that it'll take the parameters
> somewhere that'll associate your 
> *home* master SBCGLOBAL.net account with your PHONE
> # (of DSL service) of 
> the master account.  SBC uses this combination of
> values to allow their 
> DSL modem a free connection into their systems by
> verifying your master 
> dsl account (mine is from sbcglobal.net) with
> password plus a verificaton  
> of what phone number is the only phone number to
> allow that DSL connetion
> 
> Also realize, that the standard home service only
> gives you 1.5 Megabits
> downstream per second... down to your PC... whereas
> upstream (away from your
> computer) isssss... I think... only 128K bits per
> second.  If you upgrade
> to a 3 Mbits per second downstream.. you'll get
> almost 500K upstream.
> 
> That's why you can download to your machine so much
> faster than uploading
> from it to another place.
> 
> That's also why, they weren't volunteering much
> informtion to you because
> they'd rather you upgrade to SDSL with 3Mbits
> upstream/downstream and
> five routable IP addresses.  But then.. I think that
> also costs $74.95
> per month as well... compared to $14.95 (slower DSL)
> or $29.95 (faster DSL).
> 
> A much healthier connection...
> -- 
> Tyler Nally
> tnally@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-Nick


		
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