Re: [users@httpd] Problem Starting Apache Chrooted

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Use a reverse proxy behind your Chrooted WebServer to filter the content.

Best Regards,

Farid


On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 11:10:33 +0200, John <isofroni@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Well, fortunately the invader will not acess the system unless he breaks the
> chroot() function of the kernel.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ivan Barrera A." <Bruce@xxxxxx>
> To: <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Problem Starting Apache Chrooted
> 
> > > I suppose you mean the actuall chroot and not mod_chroot or mod_security
> > > (???)
> > >
> > >
> > > Let me ask you something.
> > > If an apache version is vulnerable, anbd someone using a script or
> something
> > > manage to install a backdoor on the server (let say /tmp, that means
> > > /chroot/tmp)
> > > Could he install it and then open the port?
> >
> > They could.
> > But, if they log in (suppose a login backdoor) they'll see the chrooted
> env.
> > You must take more security measures to avoid that. I prefer having tmp
> > mounted as noexec. Obviously, that doesnt work if someone uploads a perl
> > script and then execute perl to launch it.. but every measure counts.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Give me some more advantages on actuall chroot.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Farid Izem" <farid.izem@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:45 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Problem Starting Apache Chrooted
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Didn't look at the security issues as i trying to understand the
> > >>chroot mecanism
> > >>Not only for Apache but also for Squid and bind !
> > >>
> > >>I think this module can increase the security in the near future !
> > >>
> > >>Kind Regards,
> > >>
> > >>Farid.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:21:22 +0200, John <isofroni@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Ok, but if you look in the bugs history then you will find that
> > >
> > > mod_security
> > >
> > >>>has been suffering
> > >>>from various security problems.
> > >>>
> > >>>I have heard that it is a good module for chroot and other security
> > >>>hardening.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: "Farid Izem" <farid.izem@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>To: <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:33 AM
> > >>>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Problem Starting Apache Chrooted
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Yes, i said Mod_security not mod_chroot :
> > >>>>Take a look at :
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>http://www.modsecurity.org/documentation/apache-internal-chroot.html
> > >>>
> > >>>>Best Regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Farid.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:53:39 +0200, John <isofroni@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>From: "Farid Izem" <farid.izem@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>To: <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:39 PM
> > >>>>>Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Problem Starting Apache Chrooted
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Not yet thinking on !
> > >>>>>>I compiled my apache from the lastest source before chrooting it.
> > >>>>>>Maybe using a shell script using ldd command may be the first way
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > >>>look
> > >>>
> > >>>>>at.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Using rpm httpd file and mod_security is the easiest solution to
> > >>>
> > >>>upgrade
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>Because mod_security provide a simple solution to chroot easily
> > >>>
> > >>>apache.
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>There are some limits to this mecanism but maybe i could be
> > >
> > > enought
> > >
> > >>>for
> > >>>
> > >>>>>you.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Any ideas on are welcome !
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Kind Regards,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Farid
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>mod_security or mod_chroot ?
> > >>>>>mod_chroot is mote focused on chrooting apache's process i think.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>What are the limitions you mentioned on this mechanism?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
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