Re: which bit ?

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My second point which I made and later confirmed by Eric Convener and also by an email  
who has an apache  email address and not reflected in your response.Read the  the archives for that. You failed to recognise that. Please acknowledge your failure .



That it is a long standing problem that apache httpd and ubuntu httpd are two different products  therefore case for widespread  confusion ?

Obviously ubuntu feel the apache docs and setup do not meet their 
standard so they have made their point by redesigning  their  own product. In my opinion Apache should ask themselves what they are doing wrong that others are redesigning the product making the point Apache do not meet their standard.


Please show how this is a matter of needing personal help for me  or it is a personal matter for me . I have shown it is a issue showing disregard for the general public .

Moreover if I was using MS windows  I would have downloaded the binary and be oblivious to the ubuntu httpd and the apache design  conflict. 

I highlighted the problem and I was victimised for it again.


Apache httpd  earns trillions of dollar for internet cable companies. Even without warranty it is used. 
This is an abuse of charity status.





> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 8:15 AM
> From: "Joan Touzet" <wohali@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "back Button" <back.button@xxxxxxx>, users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  which bit ?
>
> All:
> 
> I have read back a few weeks in the archives for posts from this
> individual, "Back button." I do not see any contravention of the code of
> conduct on the lists by Nick Folino, or other project members.
> 
> In fact, what I see is Nick asking "Back button" to tone it down, and
> then because of repeated disregard for the list moderators, they were
> removed from the mailing list for abuse by Eric Covener.
> 
> Regular list members, apologies for this intrusion on your time - feel
> free to mute this thread in your MUA.
> 
> "Back Button," you went on ban-evaded by signing up to the mailing list
> with a new address. It even appears that you set up a sock puppet
> account to act as your daughter to complain to the mailing list.
> 
> So, "Back button," the code of conduct contravention here is your own
> actions. You are not being concise. You are assuming bad intentions. You
> were asked to stop posting, and you did not. And, finally, you are
> picking arguments because you are not personally being catered to.
> 
> As an open source developer of nearly 30 years, I can tell you this:
> what you're doing is *not* how you go about asking for help, not from
> other users, and especially not from the maintainers of a project.
> 
> The Apache License v2.0 (under which httpd is distributed) states you
> get permission to do whatever you want with the code, subject to a
> license and copyright notice, and notification of state changes, with
> limitations around liability, trademark use, and - most importantly -
> **zero warranty**.
> 
> No one on this list is obligated to help you with your problem. These
> are people giving freely of their time to try and resolve your problems.
> Please be respectful of their limitations, and understand that your
> actions to date do not inspire those here to give more of their time to
> help you out.
> 
> In fact, quoting from the Apache License v2.0: You get the code "on an
> 'AS IS' BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either
> express or implied." It then goes on to say that "**YOU** [emphasis
> mine] are solely responsible for determining the appropriateness of
> using... the Work and assume any risks associated...."
> 
> Finally, at the risk of upsetting you, I want to cite a reference. In a
> famous GitHub post from 2014[1], Steve Klabnik summed it up perfectly:
> "You are the reason people burn out on open source. Don't be such an
> ass." It is entirely possible for you to seek the help you need
> regarding httpd, but everything you have shown to date suggests you are
> the problem here, not the members of the users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailing
> list.
> 
> Best regards,
> Joan Touzet
> 
> [1]: https://github.com/wpeterson/emoji/issues/23
> 
> On 18/05/2021 00:53, back Button wrote:
> > Fact: 
> > All Java EE compliant application servers have the same directory
> > structure , so all Java EE applications are portable and familiar to
> > developers, including tomcat which is not fully Java EE compliant.
> > 
> > Apache HTTPD versions contradict this.
> > There isn't even a recognition anywhere that this  should be an
> > expectation. You are not going to get it anyway.
> > 
> > You did not answer any questions regarding this nor shed any light on it.
> > 
> > You goal is just to try to bother me.
> > 
> > FAO: Joan Touzet Apache  code of conduct. 
> > 
> > Ms. Touzet please have a look at this email account's history in the
> > archives . You will find all his messages are either derogatory towards
> > me or about. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > back.button@xxxxxxx
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, 17 May 2021, 23:53:23 BST, Nick Folino <nick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Bit 5 has always been my favorite bit.  He just hangs out there between
> > 6 and 4.  Nobody bothers him.
> > Plus you can't get past 15 without him.  He's a really good guy.
> > For what you called a horrible product you sure seem to want to figure
> > it out.
> > Keep reading.
> > 
> > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 2:21 PM back button <back.button@xxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:back.button@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > 
> >      
> >     Hi,
> >      
> >     In my application  https://www.backbutton.org/
> >     <https://www.backbutton.org/>
> >      
> >     I placed the front end proxy server on the all new  64 Bit Rasperry
> >     Pi 4.
> >     It is a wopping 64 bit  processor with 8GM Ram  running the on 
> >     linux  lsb_release Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.
> >      
> >     I used the ubuntu 64 bit OS rather than Raspberry Pi OS because 
> >     Raspberry Pi OS was pulling down a different version
> >     of Ubuntu server Apache HTTPD , did not not include all the Ubuntu
> >     utilities.
> >      
> >     I understand that when I startup the HTTPD using systemctl start
> >     apache2, it rises directly into RAM
> >     occupying the massive 8 GM of volatile memory. Then it starts
> >     listening for urls in the I/O buffer.
> >     I understand the HTTPD socket server with its text parser mod(s)
> >     performs quite fast when running in RAM.
> >      
> >     I have tried out two different bits used talk to HTTPD  with the
> >     back  end business logic application server(s) .
> >      
> >     The first bit  I used is the  mod_jk.
> >      
> >     This is the bit which talks to each other
> > 
> >     |LoadModule    jk_module  path/to/mod_jk.so AddModule     mod_jk.c
> >     JkWorkersFile /path/to/httpd/conf/workers.properties|
> > 
> >      
> >     The second bit I used is called mod_proxy.
> >     this is the bit which talks to each other
> > 
> >     |<VirtualHost backbutton.org:443 <http://backbutton.org:443>> <Proxy
> >     balancer://mycluster> BalancerMember http://127.0.0.1:8080
> >     <http://127.0.0.1:8080> BalancerMember http://127.0.0.1:8081
> >     <http://127.0.0.1:8081> </Proxy> ProxyPreserveHost On ProxyPass /
> >     balancer://mycluster/ ProxyPassReverse / balancer://mycluster/
> >     </VirtualHost>|
> > 
> >      
> >     Both bits  I used to talk to each other work fine. The first bit and
> >     the second bit.
> >     *Questions *
> >     I am a bit confused which bit should I use, the first bit or the
> >     second bit  ?
> >     Are any other bit(s) I can also try out  for a bit of practice ?
> >      
> >     favourite phrase:
> >     How you like them Apples ?
> >      
> >      
> >      
> >      
> >      
> >      
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