Hello, Over the years, I've experimented with a number of mechanisms by which to force SSL connections to a website, while at the same time: a.) Preventing the "double-login" problem. b.) Eliminating entirely the potential for users to log-in over a plain-text connection. c.) Redirecting plain-text requests (including their query strings) to equivalent URLs over SSL, transparently, *even when Apache authentication is required*. (This is to avoid sending "Access denied" responses when SSL is required but the connection is plain-text.) Is it even possible to meet all of these requirements simultaneously? To address requirement a), I have done the following, traditionally: <Location /securesite> SSLOptions +StrictRequire SSLRequireSSL ErrorDocument 403 https://example.com/securesite </Location> This works well enough, and satisfies requirements a) and b), but if I'm not mistaken, it precludes requirement c) from being met. Right? Wouldn't a *plaintext* request to /some/arbitrary/path?foo=bar&foo2=bar2 force a redirection to the ErrorDocument location, while dropping everything after /securesite? That is the observed behavior, and it makes sense. I tried appending %{REQUEST_URI} to the ErrorDocument location, but that variable appears not to be available and is not expanded, so the request is redirected to /securesite/%%7BREQUEST_URI%7D (doesn't work, needless to say). Could this be due to the following (from the Apache documentation at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/custom-error.html#behavior ): "At least REDIRECT_URL and REDIRECT_QUERY_STRING will be passed to the new URL (assuming it's a cgi-script or a cgi-include). The other variables will exist only if they existed prior to the error/problem. None of these will be set if your ErrorDocument is an external redirect (anything starting with a scheme name like http:, even if it refers to the same host as the server)." I realize that the last bit of this quote applies directly to this situation, and is likely the reason for which using %{REQUEST_URI} does not work in this context. But if I remove the https scheme from the ErrorDocument directive, then this rule is no longer effective. Does anyone have any thoughts as to how I can meet all three requirements? Thanks for any help! -Ben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx