Re: [PATCH 06/13] drm/amdgpu: use the new drm_exec object for CS v2

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Am 20.06.23 um 11:09 schrieb Boris Brezillon:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:44:26 +0200
Christian König <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Am 20.06.23 um 10:28 schrieb Boris Brezillon:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 10:12:13 +0200
Christian König <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think Boris's suggestion of having this through a common
DRM_EXEC_FLAG_ALLOW_DUPLICATES flag fits well.
No, again. The only driver which should accept duplicates is radeon, for
all other drivers especially new ones duplicates should probably be
rejected.

We only allow this for radeon because it is already UAPI, could be that
we need to do this for amdgpu as well but I really hope we don't need this.
Just want to describe the use case we have: we support submission in
batch (several jobs passed to the submit ioctl) with a
submit-all-or-nothing model: if any of the job description is passed
wrong args or causes an allocation error, we fail the whole group. In
the submission path, we want to prepare GEMs for all jobs. That means
adding enough fence slots for the number job finished fences. Given not
all jobs will access the same set of BOs, I thought I could use
duplicates support to make my life easier, because otherwise I have to
collect all BOs upfront, store them in a temporary array, and keep
track of the number of fence slots needed for each of them. I guess
the other option would be to over-estimate the number of slots and make
it equal to num_jobs for all BOs.
Sounds pretty much what amdgpu is doing as well, but question is why
don't you give just one list of BOs? Do you really want to add the
fences that fine grained?
Actually, we don't give a list of BOs at all, we pass a VM, and lock
all BOs attached to the VM (similar to what Xe does). And, as all other
drivers being submitted recently, we use explicit sync, so most of
those VM BOs, except for the imported/exported ones, will be given a
BOOKKEEP fence.

The reason we need support for duplicates is because we also have
implicit BOs (like the HWRT object that's shared by the
geometry/fragment queues to pass data around), and those can be passed
to multiple jobs in a given batch and require special synchronization
(geometry job writes to them, fragment job reads from them, so we have
a reader/writer sync to express). I can of course de-duplicate upfront,
by parsing jobs and creating an array of BOs that need to be acquired
over the whole submission, but that's still one extra-step I'd prefer
to avoid, given the dma_resv framework allows us to figure it out at
lock time. I can also just deal with the EALREADY case in the driver
directly, it's not like it's super complicated anyway, just thought
other drivers would fall in the same situation, that's all.

Well as long as you just need to ignore EALREADY, that should be trivial and doable.

What radeon needs is to keep EALREADY BOs in a separate container because we need to double check their properties to not break the UAPI.

I strongly think that this shouldn't be needed by any other driver.

Going to add a flag to ignore EALREADY which can be set during exec init.

Regards,
Christian.


For radeon it turned out that we just had stupid userspace which
sometimes mentioned a BO in the list twice.
Okay, that's not the same thing, indeed.

On the other hand over estimating the number of fences needed is
perfectly fine as well, that is rounded up to the next kvmalloc size or
even next page size anyway.
Yeah, actually over-provisioning is not the most annoying part.
Iterating over jobs to collect 'meta'-BOs is, so if I can just rely on
EALREADY to detect that case and fallback to reserving an extra slot in
that situation, I'd prefer that.




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