Re: Explicit VM updates

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On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 2:40 PM Christian König <christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> so today Bas came up with a new requirement regarding the explicit
> synchronization to VM updates and a bunch of prototype patches.
>
> I've been thinking about that stuff for quite some time before, but to
> be honest it's one of the most trickiest parts of the driver.
>
> So my current thinking is that we could potentially handle those
> requirements like this:
>
> 1. We add some new EXPLICIT flag to context (or CS?) and VM IOCTL. This
> way we either get the new behavior for the whole CS+VM or the old one,
> but never both mixed.

Any VM wide flag would be a concern because libdrm_amdgpu merges
things into a single drm fd for potentially multiple driver (i.e. radv
+ amdvlk + radeonsi). I'm also not sure what you'd need a VM flag for?

>
> 2. When memory is unmapped we keep around the last unmap operation
> inside the bo_va.
>
> 3. When memory is freed we add all the CS fences which could access that
> memory + the last unmap operation as BOOKKEEP fences to the BO and as
> mandatory sync fence to the VM.
>
> Memory freed either because of an eviction or because of userspace
> closing the handle will be seen as a combination of unmap+free.
>
>
> The result is the following semantic for userspace to avoid implicit
> synchronization as much as possible:
>
> 1. When you allocate and map memory it is mandatory to either wait for
> the mapping operation to complete or to add it as dependency for your CS.
>      If this isn't followed the application will run into CS faults
> (that's what we pretty much already implemented).
>
> 2. When memory is freed you must unmap that memory first and then wait
> for this unmap operation to complete before freeing the memory.
>      If this isn't followed the kernel will add a forcefully wait to the
> next CS to block until the unmap is completed.
>
> 3. All VM operations requested by userspace will still be executed in
> order, e.g. we can't run unmap + map in parallel or something like this.
>
> Is that something you guys can live with? As far as I can see it should
> give you the maximum freedom possible, but is still doable.
>
> Regards,
> Christian.




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