Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency

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On 10/27/2021 3:30 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote:
On 2021-10-26 17:26, Alex Deucher wrote:
On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 9:54 AM Luben Tuikov <luben.tuikov@xxxxxxx> wrote:
It again fails with the same message!
But this time it is different!
Here's why:

openat(AT_FDCWD, "/sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_fclk", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "0: 571Mhz \n1: 1274Mhz *\n2: 1221M"..., 8191) = 36
read(3, "", 8191)                       = 0
close(3)                                = 0
write(2, "python3: /home/ltuikov/proj/amd/"..., 220python3: /home/ltuikov/proj/amd/rocm_smi_lib/src/rocm_smi.cc:913: rsmi_status_t get_frequencies(amd::smi::DevInfoTypes, uint32_t, rsmi_frequencies_t*, uint32_t*): Assertion `f->frequency[i-1] <= f->frequency[i]' failed.
) = 220
mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f531f9bc000
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [ABRT], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[RTMIN RT_1], [], 8) = 0
getpid()                                = 37861
gettid()                                = 37861
tgkill(37861, 37861, SIGABRT)           = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
--- SIGABRT {si_signo=SIGABRT, si_code=SI_TKILL, si_pid=37861, si_uid=1000} ---
+++ killed by SIGABRT (core dumped) +++
Aborted (core dumped)
$cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_fclk
0: 571Mhz
1: 1274Mhz *
2: 1221Mhz
$_

Why is the mid frequency larger than the last?
Why does get_frequencies() insists that they be ordered when they're not? (Does the tool need fixing or the kernel?)

The current patchset doesn't report 0, and doesn't report any current if 0 would've been reported as current. But anything else is reported as it would've been reported before the patch. And I tested it with vanilla amd-staging-drm-next--same thing.

Seems to crash both ways.  I'd rather either:
1. Remove the * when the clock is outside of the min and max ranges
or
2. Clamp the clock to the max or min if it's above or below.

And then fix the tools accordingly.  Those seem like the choices of
least surprise considering the interface is supposed to show the
current and available DPM levels.

So, if we get a case such as the one above, we remove the whole line at 1:, not just the asterisk, right? (for option 1 above).
The rocm-smi lib would fail if they're out of order, so only removing the * char would still confuse the tool.

What does it mean when the current frequency (line 1:) is above the "max" (line 2:) as shown in my output above?

Do we perhaps want to sort them and report current still, and swap lines 1 and 2?

Or should we simply remove the ordering requirement in rocm-smi lib?

These nodes help to find the current state of ASIC. Clamping the values will just erase questions like these and possible improvements/fixes.

For ex: if the situation above is a case of OD (this is only example, don't know what is really the case above) that goes beyond regular DPM min/max levels, then we could add + as improvement.

IMO, the node should reflect the current state of ASIC and masking the values shouldn't be done. Other cases could be 0 or FW handshake failures where * itself will be missing.

Thanks,
Lijo

Regards,
Luben


Alex


Regards,
Luben


On 2021-10-19 09:25, Russell, Kent wrote:

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It was the rocm-smi -c flag. Maybe some work was done to make it more robust, that would be nice. But the -c flag is supposed to show the current frequency for each clock type. -g would do the same, but just for SCLK.



Kent



From: Tuikov, Luben <Luben.Tuikov@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 12:27 AM
To: Russell, Kent <Kent.Russell@xxxxxxx>; Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@xxxxxxx>; Quan, Evan <Evan.Quan@xxxxxxx>; Lazar, Lijo <Lijo.Lazar@xxxxxxx>; amd-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish <Harish.Kasiviswanathan@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency



Kent,

What is the command which fails?
I can try to duplicate it here.

So far, things I've tried, I cannot make rocm-smi fail. Command arguments?

Regards,
Luben

On 2021-10-18 21:06, Russell, Kent wrote:

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The * is required for the rocm-smi’s functionality for showing what the current clocks are. We had a bug before where the * was removed, then the SMI died fantastically. Work could be done to try to handle that type of situation, but the SMI has a “show current clocks” and uses the * to determine which one is active



Kent



From: amd-gfx <amd-gfx-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Russell, Kent
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:05 PM
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Cc: Kasiviswanathan, Harish <Harish.Kasiviswanathan@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency



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+Harish, rocm-smi falls under his purview now.



Kent



From: Tuikov, Luben <Luben.Tuikov@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency



I think Kent is already seen these patches as he did comment on 1/5 patch.

The v3 version of the patch, posted last week, removes the asterisk to report the lowest frequency as the current frequency, when the current frequency is 0, i.e. when the block is in low power state. Does the tool rely on the asterisk? If this information is necessary could it not use amdgpu_pm_info?

Regards,
Luben

On 2021-10-18 16:19, Deucher, Alexander wrote:

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We the current behavior (0 for clock) already crashes the tool, so I don't think we can really make things worse.



Alex



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From: Quan, Evan <Evan.Quan@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:25 PM
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Cc: Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency



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+Kent who maintains the Rocm tool



From: amd-gfx <amd-gfx-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Lazar, Lijo
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:07 AM
To: Tuikov, Luben <Luben.Tuikov@xxxxxxx>; amd-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency



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Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk?


I think this is also fine meaning we are having trouble in determining the current frequency or DPM level. Evan/Alex? Don't know if this will crash the tools.



Thanks,
Lijo

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From: Tuikov, Luben <Luben.Tuikov@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 9:52:09 PM
To: Lazar, Lijo <Lijo.Lazar@xxxxxxx>; amd-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <amd-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] 0 MHz is not a valid current frequency



On 2021-10-13 00:14, Lazar, Lijo wrote:
On 10/13/2021 8:40 AM, Luben Tuikov wrote:
Some ASIC support low-power functionality for the whole ASIC or just
an IP block. When in such low-power mode, some sysfs interfaces would
report a frequency of 0, e.g.,

$cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk
0: 500Mhz
1: 0Mhz *
2: 2200Mhz
$_

An operating frequency of 0 MHz doesn't make sense, and this interface
is designed to report only operating clock frequencies, i.e. non-zero,
and possibly the current one.

When in this low-power state, round to the smallest
operating frequency, for this interface, as follows,

Would rather avoid this -

1) It is manipulating FW reported value. If at all there is an uncaught
issue in FW reporting of frequency values, that is masked here.
2) Otherwise, if 0MHz is described as GFX power gated case, this
provides a convenient interface to check if GFX is power gated.

If seeing a '0' is not pleasing, consider changing to something like
        "NA" - not available (frequency cannot be fetched at the moment).
There's a ROCm tool which literally asserts if the values are not ordered in increasing order. Now since 0 < 550, but 0 is listed as the second entry, the tool simply asserts and crashes.

It is not clear what you'd rather see here:

$cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk
0: 550Mhz
1: N/A *
2: 2200MHz
$_

Is this what you want to see? (That'll crash other tools which expect %uMhz.)

Or maybe just a list without default hint, i.e. no asterisk?

$cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk
0: 550Mhz
1: 2200MHz
$_

What should the output be?

We want to avoid showing 0, but still show numbers.

Regards,
Luben

Thanks,
Lijo

$cat /sys/class/drm/card0/device/pp_dpm_sclk
0: 500Mhz *
1: 2200Mhz
$_

Luben Tuikov (5):
    drm/amd/pm: Slight function rename
    drm/amd/pm: Rename cur_value to curr_value
    drm/amd/pm: Rename freq_values --> freq_value
    dpm/amd/pm: Sienna: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency
    dpm/amd/pm: Navi10: 0 MHz is not a current clock frequency

   .../gpu/drm/amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/navi10_ppt.c   | 60 +++++++++------
   .../amd/pm/swsmu/smu11/sienna_cichlid_ppt.c   | 73 ++++++++++++-------
   2 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 47 deletions(-)










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