On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 04:55:50PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 05:02:18PM +0000, Steven Price wrote:
> > On 12/03/2020 16:37, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 04:16:33PM +0000, Steven Price wrote:
> > > > > Actually, while you are looking at this, do you think we should be
> > > > > adding at least READ_ONCE in the pagewalk.c walk_* functions? The
> > > > > multiple references of pmd, pud, etc without locking seems sketchy to
> > > > > me.
> > > >
> > > > I agree it seems worrying. I'm not entirely sure whether the holding of
> > > > mmap_sem is sufficient,
> > >
> > > I looked at this question, and at least for PMD, mmap_sem is not
> > > sufficient. I didn't easilly figure it out for the other ones
> > >
> > > I'm guessing if PMD is not safe then none of them are.
> > >
> > > > this isn't something that I changed so I've just
> > > > been hoping that it's sufficient since it seems to have been working
> > > > (whether that's by chance because the compiler didn't generate multiple
> > > > reads I've no idea). For walking the kernel's page tables the lack of
> > > > READ_ONCE is also not great, but at least for PTDUMP we don't care too much
> > > > about accuracy and it should be crash proof because there's no RCU grace
> > > > period. And again the code I was replacing didn't have any special
> > > > protection.
> > > >
> > > > I can't see any harm in updating the code to include READ_ONCE and I'm happy
> > > > to review a patch.
> > >
> > > The reason I ask is because hmm's walkers often have this pattern
> > > where they get the pointer and then de-ref it (again) then
> > > immediately have to recheck the 'again' conditions of the walker
> > > itself because the re-read may have given a different value.
> > >
> > > Having the walker deref the pointer and pass the value it into the ops
> > > for use rather than repeatedly de-refing an unlocked value seems like
> > > a much safer design to me.
> >
> > Yeah that sounds like a good idea.
>
> I'm looking at this now.. The PUD is also changing under the read
> mmap_sem - and I was able to think up some race conditiony bugs
> related to this. Have some patches now..
>
> However, I haven't been able to understand why walk_page_range()
> doesn't check pud_present() or pmd_present() before calling
> pmd_offset_map() or pte_offset_map().
>
> As far as I can see a non-present entry has a swap entry encoded in
> it, and thus it seems like it is a bad idea to pass a non-present
> entry to the two map functions. I think those should only be called
> when the entry points to the next level in the page table (so there
> is something to map?)
>
> I see you added !present tests for the !vma case, but why only there?
>
> Is this a bug? Do you know how it works?
>
> Is it something that was missed when people added non-present PUD and
> PMD's?
... I'm sorry, I did what now? As far as I can tell, you're talking
about mm/pagewalk.c, and the only commit I have in that file is
a00cc7d9dd93d66a3fb83fc52aa57a4bec51c517 ("mm, x86: add support for
PUD-sized transparent hugepages", which I think I was pretty clear
from the commit message is basically copy-and-paste from the PMD code.
I have no clue why most of the decisions in the MM were made.
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