On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 11:40 +0200, Lionel Landwerlin wrote: > On 28/02/2020 11:28, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-02-28 at 13:37 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Daniel Vetter < > > > daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting > > > > minutes > > > > already, here's the long version. > > > > > > > > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our > > > > communities, and is used extensively. This especially includes > > > > all > > > > the > > > > CI integration. Modern development process and tooling, yay! > > > > > > > > The bad news: The cost in growth has also been tremendous, and > > > > it's > > > > breaking our bank account. With reasonable estimates for > > > > continued > > > > growth we're expecting hosting expenses totalling 75k USD this > > > > year, > > > > and 90k USD next year. With the current sponsors we've set up > > > > we > > > > can't > > > > sustain that. We estimate that hosting expenses for gitlab.fd.o > > > > without any of the CI features enabled would total 30k USD, > > > > which > > > > is > > > > within X.org's ability to support through various sponsorships, > > > > mostly > > > > through XDC. > > > > > > > > Note that X.org does no longer sponsor any CI runners > > > > themselves, > > > > we've stopped that. The huge additional expenses are all just > > > > in > > > > storing and serving build artifacts and images to outside CI > > > > runners > > > > sponsored by various companies. A related topic is that with > > > > the > > > > growth in fd.o it's becoming infeasible to maintain it all on > > > > volunteer admin time. X.org is therefore also looking for admin > > > > sponsorship, at least medium term. > > > > > > > > Assuming that we want cash flow reserves for one year of > > > > gitlab.fd.o > > > > (without CI support) and a trimmed XDC and assuming no sponsor > > > > payment > > > > meanwhile, we'd have to cut CI services somewhere between May > > > > and > > > > June > > > > this year. The board is of course working on acquiring > > > > sponsors, > > > > but > > > > filling a shortfall of this magnitude is neither easy nor quick > > > > work, > > > > and we therefore decided to give an early warning as soon as > > > > possible. > > > > Any help in finding sponsors for fd.o is very much appreciated. > > > a) Ouch. > > > > > > b) we probably need to take a large step back here. > > > > > I kinda agree, but maybe the step doesn't have to be *too* large? > > > > I wonder if we could solve this by restructuring the project a bit. > > I'm > > talking purely from a Mesa point of view here, so it might not > > solve > > the full problem, but: > > > > 1. It feels silly that we need to test changes to e.g the i965 > > driver > > on dragonboards. We only have a big "do not run CI at all" escape- > > hatch. > > Yeah, changes on vulkan drivers or backend compilers should be > fairly > sandboxed. > > We also have tools that only work for intel stuff, that should never > trigger anything on other people's HW. > > Could something be worked out using the tags? > I think so! We have the pre-defined environment variable CI_MERGE_REQUEST_LABELS, and we can do variable conditions: https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/ci/yaml/#onlyvariablesexceptvariables That sounds like a pretty neat middle-ground to me. I just hope that new pipelines are triggered if new labels are added, because not everyone is allowed to set labels, and sometimes people forget... _______________________________________________ amd-gfx mailing list amd-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/amd-gfx
