On Thu, 2019-02-21 at 16:57 +0000, Kuehling, Felix wrote: > On 2019-02-21 2:59 a.m., Koenig, Christian wrote: > > On x86 with HIGHMEM there is no dma32 zone. Why do we need one on > > > > x86_64? Can we make x86_64 more like HIGHMEM instead? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Felix > > > > > > > IIRC with x86, the kernel zone is always smaller than any dma32 > > > zone, > > > so we'd always exhaust the kernel zone before dma32 anyway. > > > > > > Not sure why we have dma32 on x86 without highmem, though. sounds > > > superflous but harmless. > > Well DMA32 denotes memory which is accessible by devices who can > > only do > > 32bit addressing. And IIRC we can actually do DMA32 to highmem > > since > > something like 2.4.*. > > > > Because of this it is actually irrelevant if you have highmem or > > not, > > what matters for DMA32 is if you have an IOMMU or not. > > Are you saying we should have a dma32_zone even on x86 with HIGHMEM? > > > > So even on x86_64 you actually do need the DMA32 zone if you don't > > have > > an IOMMU which remaps all memory for devices which can't directly > > address it. > > Why is DMA32 special in this way? For example AMD GFX8 GPUs support > 40-bit DMA. But we don't have a special zone for that. If you're running on a non-IOMMU system with physical memory addresses > 40 bits, and tell the DMA subsystem that you need to restrict to 40 bits, it will probably start using bounce buffers for streaming DMA (which won't work with most graphics drivers), or for dma_alloc_coherent(), it will probably use memory from the DMA32 zone. > > How common is it to have devices that need DMA32 on an x86_64 system? IIRC All devices using dma_alloc_coherent() allocate DMA32 memory unless they explicitly set the dma coherent mask to something larger. Like Christian says, if an IOMMU is present and enabled, the need for the DMA32 zone goes away. In theory at least. /Thomas > > Regards, > Felix > > > > Regards, > > Christian. > > > > > /Thomas > > > > > > _______________________________________________ amd-gfx mailing list amd-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/amd-gfx
