On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 06:13:56PM +0000, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 08.10.2018 um 19:46 schrieb Guenter Roeck:
> > On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 05:22:24PM +0000, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> Am 08.10.2018 um 17:57 schrieb Deucher, Alexander:
> >>>>>> One thing I found missing in the discussion was the reference to the
> >>>>>> C standard.
> >>>>>> The C99 standard states in section 6.7.8 (Initialization) clause 19:
> >>>>>> "... all
> >>>>>> subobjects that are not initialized explicitly shall be initialized
> >>>>>> implicitly the same as objects that have static storage duration".
> >>>>>> Clause 21 makes further reference to partial initialization,
> >>>>>> suggesting the same. Various online resources, including the gcc
> >>>>>> documentation, all state the same. I don't find any reference to a
> >>>>>> partial initialization which would leave members of a structure
> >>>>>> undefined. It would be interesting for me to understand how and why
> >>>>>> this does not apply here.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In this context, it is interesting that the other 48 instances of the
> >>>>>> { { 0 } } initialization in the same driver don't raise similar
> >>>>>> concerns, nor seemed to have caused any operational problems.
> >>>>> Feel free to provide patches to replace those with memset().
> >>>>>
> >>>> Not me. As I see it, the problem, if it exists, would be a violation of the C
> >>>> standard. I don't believe hacking around bad C compilers. I would rather
> >>>> blacklist such compilers.
> >> Well then you would need to blacklist basically all gcc variants of the
> >> last decade or so.
> >>
> >> Initializing only known members of structures is a perfectly valid
> >> optimization and well known issue when you then compare the structure
> >> with memcpy() or use the bytes for hashing or something similar.
> >>
> > Isn't that about padding ? That is a completely different issue.
>
> Correct, yes. But that is the reason why I recommend using memset() for
> zero initialization.
>
> See we don't know the inner layout of the structure, could be another
> structure or an union.
>
> If it's a structure everything is fine because if you initialize one
> structure member all other get their default type (whatever that means),
> but if it's an union.....
>
> Not sure if compilers still react allergic to that, but its the status
> I've learned the hard way when the C99 standard came out and it still
> seems like people are working around that so I recommend everybody to
> stick with memset().
Went boom:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108490
Can we revert?
Also, can we properly igt this so that intel-gfx-ci could test this before
it's all fireworks?
Thanks, Daniel
--
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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