Some jobs don't have a context (VM updates, clears, buffer moves).
I would still like to abort those when they where issued before a losing
VRAM content, but keep the entity usable.
So I think we should just keep a copy of the VRAM lost counter in the
job. That also removes us from the burden of figuring out the context
during job run.
Regards,
Christian.
Am 11.10.2017 um 15:35 schrieb Liu, Monk:
> I think just compare the copy from context/entity with current counter is enough, don't see how it's better to keep another copy in JOB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Koenig, Christian
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 6:40 PM
> To: Zhou, David(ChunMing) <David1.Zhou at amd.com>; Liu, Monk <Monk.Liu at amd.com>; Haehnle, Nicolai <Nicolai.Haehnle at amd.com>; Olsak, Marek <Marek.Olsak at amd.com>; Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher at amd.com>
> Cc: Ramirez, Alejandro <Alejandro.Ramirez at amd.com>; amd-gfx at lists.freedesktop.org; Filipas, Mario <Mario.Filipas at amd.com>; Ding, Pixel <Pixel.Ding at amd.com>; Li, Bingley <Bingley.Li at amd.com>; Jiang, Jerry (SW) <Jerry.Jiang at amd.com>
> Subject: Re: TDR and VRAM lost handling in KMD:
>
> I've already posted a patch for this on the mailing list.
>
> Basically we just copy the vram lost counter into the job and when we try to run the job we can mark it as canceled.
>
> Regards,
> Christian.
>
> Am 11.10.2017 um 12:14 schrieb Chunming Zhou:
>> Your summary lacks the below issue:
>>
>> How about the job already pushed in scheduler queue when vram is lost?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> David Zhou
>> On 2017å¹´10æ??11æ?¥ 17:41, Liu, Monk wrote:
>>> Okay, let me summary our whole idea together and see if it works:
>>>
>>> 1, For cs_submit, always check vram-lost_counter first and reject the
>>> submit (return -ECANCLED to UMD) if ctx->vram_lost_counter !=
>>> adev->vram_lost_counter. That way the vram lost issue can be handled
>>>
>>> 2, for cs_submit we still need to check if the incoming context is
>>> "AMDGPU_CTX_GUILTY_RESET" or not even if we found
>>> ctx->vram_lost_counter == adev->vram_lost_counter, and we can reject
>>> the submit
>>> If it is "AMDGPU_CTX_GUILTY_RESET", correct ?
>>>
>>> 3, in gpu_reset() routine, we only mark the hang job's entity as
>>> guilty (so we need to add new member in entity structure), and not
>>> kick it out in gpu_reset() stage, but we need to set the context
>>> behind this entity as " AMDGPU_CTX_GUILTY_RESET"
>>> And if reset introduces VRAM LOST, we just update
>>> adev->vram_lost_counter, but *don't* change all entity to guilty, so
>>> still only the hang job's entity is "guilty"
>>> After some entity marked as "guilty", we find a way to set the
>>> context behind it as AMDGPU_CTX_GUILTY_RESET, because this is U/K
>>> interface, we need let UMD can know that this context is wrong.
>>>
>>> 4, in gpu scheduler's run_job() routine, since it only reads entity,
>>> so we skip job scheduling once found the entity is "guilty"
>>>
>>>
>>> Does above sounds good ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Haehnle, Nicolai
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 5:26 PM
>>> To: Liu, Monk <Monk.Liu at amd.com>; Koenig, Christian
>>> <Christian.Koenig at amd.com>; Olsak, Marek <Marek.Olsak at amd.com>;
>>> Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher at amd.com>
>>> Cc: amd-gfx at lists.freedesktop.org; Ding, Pixel <Pixel.Ding at amd.com>;
>>> Jiang, Jerry (SW) <Jerry.Jiang at amd.com>; Li, Bingley
>>> <Bingley.Li at amd.com>; Ramirez, Alejandro <Alejandro.Ramirez at amd.com>;
>>> Filipas, Mario <Mario.Filipas at amd.com>
>>> Subject: Re: TDR and VRAM lost handling in KMD:
>>>
>>> On 11.10.2017 11:18, Liu, Monk wrote:
>>>> Let's talk it simple, When vram lost hit, what's the action for
>>>> amdgpu_ctx_query()/AMDGPU_CTX_OP_QUERY_STATE on other contexts (not
>>>> the one trigger gpu hang) after vram lost ? do you mean we return
>>>> -ENODEV to UMD ?
>>> It should successfully return AMDGPU_CTX_INNOCENT_RESET.
>>>
>>>
>>>> In cs_submit, with vram lost hit, if we don't mark all contexts as
>>>> "guilty", how we block its from submitting ? can you show some
>>>> implement way
>>> if (ctx->vram_lost_counter != atomic_read(&adev->vram_lost_counter))
>>> return -ECANCELED;
>>>
>>> (where ctx->vram_lost_counter is initialized at context creation time
>>> and never changed afterwards)
>>>
>>>
>>>> BTW: the "guilty" here is a new member I want to add to context, it
>>>> is not related with AMDGPU_CTX_OP_QUERY_STATE UK interface, Looks I
>>>> need to unify them and only one place to mark guilty or not
>>> Right, the AMDGPU_CTX_OP_QUERY_STATE handling needs to be made
>>> consistent with the rest.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nicolai
>>>
>>>
>>>> BR Monk
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Haehnle, Nicolai
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 5:00 PM
>>>> To: Liu, Monk <Monk.Liu at amd.com>; Koenig, Christian
>>>> <Christian.Koenig at amd.com>; Olsak, Marek <Marek.Olsak at amd.com>;
>>>> Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher at amd.com>
>>>> Cc: amd-gfx at lists.freedesktop.org; Ding, Pixel <Pixel.Ding at amd.com>;
>>>> Jiang, Jerry (SW) <Jerry.Jiang at amd.com>; Li, Bingley
>>>> <Bingley.Li at amd.com>; Ramirez, Alejandro
>>>> <Alejandro.Ramirez at amd.com>; Filipas, Mario <Mario.Filipas at amd.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: TDR and VRAM lost handling in KMD:
>>>>
>>>> On 11.10.2017 10:48, Liu, Monk wrote:
>>>>> On "guilty": "guilty" is a term that's used by APIs (e.g. OpenGL),
>>>>> so it's reasonable to use it. However, it /does not/ make sense to
>>>>> mark idle contexts as "guilty" just because VRAM is lost. VRAM lost
>>>>> is a perfect example where the driver should report context lost to
>>>>> applications with the "innocent" flag for contexts that were idle
>>>>> at the time of reset. The only context(s) that should be reported
>>>>> as "guilty"
>>>>> (or perhaps "unknown" in some cases) are the ones that were
>>>>> executing at the time of reset.
>>>>>
>>>>> ML: KMD mark all contexts as guilty is because that way we can
>>>>> unify our IOCTL behavior: e.g. for IOCTL only block â??guiltyâ??context
>>>>> , no need to worry about vram-lost-counter anymore, thatâ??s a
>>>>> implementation style. I donâ??t think it is related with UMD layer,
>>>>>
>>>>> For UMD the gl-context isnâ??t aware of by KMD, so UMD can implement
>>>>> it own â??guiltyâ?? gl-context if you want.
>>>> Well, to some extent this is just semantics, but it helps to keep
>>>> the terminology consistent.
>>>>
>>>> Most importantly, please keep the AMDGPU_CTX_OP_QUERY_STATE uapi in
>>>> mind: this returns one of
>>>> AMDGPU_CTX_{GUILTY,INNOCENT,UNKNOWN}_RECENT,
>>>> and it must return "innocent" for contexts that are only lost due to
>>>> VRAM lost without being otherwise involved in the timeout that lead
>>>> to the reset.
>>>>
>>>> The point is that in the places where you used "guilty" it would be
>>>> better to use "context lost", and then further differentiate between
>>>> guilty/innocent context lost based on the details of what happened.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If KMD doesnâ??t mark all ctx as guilty after VRAM lost, can you
>>>>> illustrate what rule KMD should obey to check in KMS IOCTL like
>>>>> cs_sumbit ?? letâ??s see which way better
>>>> if (ctx->vram_lost_counter != atomic_read(&adev->vram_lost_counter))
>>>> return -ECANCELED;
>>>>
>>>> Plus similar logic for AMDGPU_CTX_OP_QUERY_STATE.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it's one additional check in cs_submit. If you're worried about
>>>> that (and Christian's concerns about possible issues with walking
>>>> over all contexts are addressed), I suppose you could just store a
>>>> per-context
>>>>
>>>> unsigned context_reset_status;
>>>>
>>>> instead of a `bool guilty`. Its value would start out as 0
>>>> (AMDGPU_CTX_NO_RESET) and would be set to the correct value during
>>>> reset.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nicolai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Haehnle, Nicolai
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2017 4:41 PM
>>>>> *To:* Liu, Monk <Monk.Liu at amd.com>; Koenig, Christian
>>>>> <Christian.Koenig at amd.com>; Olsak, Marek <Marek.Olsak at amd.com>;
>>>>> Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher at amd.com>
>>>>> *Cc:* amd-gfx at lists.freedesktop.org; Ding, Pixel
>>>>> <Pixel.Ding at amd.com>; Jiang, Jerry (SW) <Jerry.Jiang at amd.com>; Li,
>>>>> Bingley <Bingley.Li at amd.com>; Ramirez, Alejandro
>>>>> <Alejandro.Ramirez at amd.com>; Filipas, Mario <Mario.Filipas at amd.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: TDR and VRAM lost handling in KMD:
>>>>>
>>>>> From a Mesa perspective, this almost all sounds reasonable to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> On "guilty": "guilty" is a term that's used by APIs (e.g. OpenGL),
>>>>> so it's reasonable to use it. However, it /does not/ make sense to
>>>>> mark idle contexts as "guilty" just because VRAM is lost. VRAM lost
>>>>> is a perfect example where the driver should report context lost to
>>>>> applications with the "innocent" flag for contexts that were idle
>>>>> at the time of reset. The only context(s) that should be reported
>>>>> as "guilty"
>>>>> (or perhaps "unknown" in some cases) are the ones that were
>>>>> executing at the time of reset.
>>>>>
>>>>> On whether the whole context is marked as guilty from a user space
>>>>> perspective, it would simply be nice for user space to get
>>>>> consistent answers. It would be a bit odd if we could e.g. succeed
>>>>> in submitting an SDMA job after a GFX job was rejected. This would
>>>>> point in favor of marking the entire context as guilty (although
>>>>> that could happen lazily instead of at reset time). On the other
>>>>> hand, if that's too big a burden for the kernel implementation I'm
>>>>> sure we can live without it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicolai
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ---
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Liu, Monk
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:15:40 AM
>>>>> *To:* Koenig, Christian; Haehnle, Nicolai; Olsak, Marek; Deucher,
>>>>> Alexander
>>>>> *Cc:* amd-gfx at lists.freedesktop.org
>>>>> <mailto:amd-gfx at lists.freedesktop.org>; Ding, Pixel; Jiang, Jerry
>>>>> (SW); Li, Bingley; Ramirez, Alejandro; Filipas, Mario
>>>>> *Subject:* RE: TDR and VRAM lost handling in KMD:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.Set its fence error status to â??*ETIME*â??,
>>>>>
>>>>> No, as I already explained ETIME is for synchronous operation.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words when we return ETIME from the wait IOCTL it would
>>>>> mean that the waiting has somehow timed out, but not the job we waited for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please use ECANCELED as well or some other error code when we find
>>>>> that we need to distinct the timedout job from the canceled ones
>>>>> (probably a good idea, but I'm not sure).
>>>>>
>>>>> [ML] Iâ??m okay if you insist not to use ETIME
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.Find the entity/ctx behind this job, and set this ctx as â??*guilty*â??
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure. Do we want to set the whole context as guilty or just the
>>>>> entity?
>>>>>
>>>>> Setting the whole contexts as guilty sounds racy to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: We should use a different name than "guilty", maybe just "bool
>>>>> canceled;" ?
>>>>>
>>>>> [ML] I think context is better than entity, because for example if
>>>>> you only block entity_0 of context and allow entity_N run, that
>>>>> means the dependency between entities are broken (e.g. page table
>>>>> updates in
>>>>>
>>>>> Sdma entity pass but gfx submit in GFX entity blocked, not make
>>>>> sense to me)
>>>>>
>>>>> Weâ??d better either block the whole context or let notâ?¦
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.Kick out all jobs in this â??guiltyâ?? ctxâ??s KFIFO queue, and set all
>>>>> their fence status to â??*ECANCELED*â??
>>>>>
>>>>> Setting ECANCELED should be ok. But I think we should do this when
>>>>> we try to run the jobs and not during GPU reset.
>>>>>
>>>>> [ML] without deep thought and expritment, Iâ??m not sure the
>>>>> difference between them, but kick it out in gpu_reset routine is
>>>>> more efficient,
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise you need to check context/entity guilty flag in run_job
>>>>> routine â?¦and you need to it for every context/entity, I donâ??t see
>>>>> why
>>>>>
>>>>> We donâ??t just kickout all of them in gpu_reset stage â?¦.
>>>>>
>>>>> a)Iterate over all living ctx, and set all ctx as â??*guilty*â?? since
>>>>> VRAM lost actually ruins all VRAM contents
>>>>>
>>>>> No, that shouldn't be done by comparing the counters. Iterating
>>>>> over all contexts is way to much overhead.
>>>>>
>>>>> [ML] because I want to make KMS IOCTL rules clean, like they donâ??t
>>>>> need to differentiate VRAM lost or not, they only interested in if
>>>>> the context is guilty or not, and block
>>>>>
>>>>> Submit for guilty ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Can you give more details of your idea? And better the detail
>>>>> implement in cs_submit, I want to see how you want to block submit
>>>>> without checking context guilty flag*
>>>>>
>>>>> a)Kick out all jobs in all ctxâ??s KFIFO queue, and set all their
>>>>> fence status to â??*ECANCELDED*â??
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and no, that should be done when we try to run the jobs and not
>>>>> during GPU reset.
>>>>>
>>>>> [ML] again, kicking out them in gpu reset routine is high
>>>>> efficient, otherwise you need check on every job in run_job()
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides, can you illustrate the detail implementation ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and no, dma_fence_get_status() is some specific handling for
>>>>> sync_file debugging (no idea why that made it into the common fence
>>>>> code).
>>>>>
>>>>> It was replaced by putting the error code directly into the fence,
>>>>> so just reading that one after waiting should be ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we should fix dma_fence_get_status() to do the right thing
>>>>> for this?
>>>>>
>>>>> [ML] yeah, thatâ??s too confusing, the name sound really the one I
>>>>> want to use, we should change itâ?¦
>>>>>
>>>>> *But look into the implement, I don**â??t see why we cannot use it ?
>>>>> it also finally return the fence->error *
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Koenig, Christian
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:21 PM
>>>>> *To:* Liu, Monk <Monk.Liu at amd.com <mailto:Monk.Liu at amd.com>>;
>>>>> Haehnle, Nicolai <Nicolai.Haehnle at amd.com
>>>>> <mailto:Nicolai.Haehnle at amd.com>>;
>>>>> Olsak, Marek <Marek.Olsak at amd.com <mailto:Marek.Olsak at amd.com>>;
>>>>> Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher at amd.com
>>>>> <mailto:Alexander.Deucher at amd.com>>
>>>>> *Cc:* amd-gfx at lists.freedesktop.org
>>>>> <mailto:amd-gfx at lists.freedesktop.org>; Ding, Pixel
>>>>> <Pixel.Ding at amd.com <mailto:Pixel.Ding at amd.com>>; Jiang, Jerry (SW)
>>>>> <Jerry.Jiang at amd.com <mailto:Jerry.Jiang at amd.com>>; Li, Bingley
>>>>> <Bingley.Li at amd.com <mailto:Bingley.Li at amd.com>>; Ramirez,
>>>>> Alejandro <Alejandro.Ramirez at amd.com
>>>>> <mailto:Alejandro.Ramirez at amd.com>>;
>>>>> Filipas, Mario <Mario.Filipas at amd.com
>>>>> <mailto:Mario.Filipas at amd.com>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: TDR and VRAM lost handling in KMD:
>>>>>
>>>>> See inline:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 11.10.2017 um 07:33 schrieb Liu, Monk:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Christian & Nicolai,
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to achieve some agreements on what should MESA/UMD do
>>>>> and
>>>>> what should KMD do, *please give your comments with â??okayâ?? or
>>>>> â??Noâ??
>>>>> and your idea on below items,*
>>>>>
>>>>> ?When a job timed out (set from lockup_timeout kernel
>>>>> parameter),
>>>>> What KMD should do in TDR routine :
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.Update adev->*gpu_reset_counter*, and stop scheduler first,
>>>>> (*gpu_reset_counter* is used to force vm flush after GPU
>>>>> reset, out
>>>>> of this threadâ??s scope so no more discussion on it)
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.Set its fence error status to â??*ETIME*â??,
>>>>>
>>>>> No, as I already explained ETIME is for synchronous operation.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words when we return ETIME from the wait IOCTL it would
>>>>> mean that the waiting has somehow timed out, but not the job we waited for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please use ECANCELED as well or some other error code when we find
>>>>> that we need to distinct the timedout job from the canceled ones
>>>>> (probably a good idea, but I'm not sure).
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.Find the entity/ctx behind this job, and set this ctx as
>>>>> â??*guilty*â??
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure. Do we want to set the whole context as guilty or just the
>>>>> entity?
>>>>>
>>>>> Setting the whole contexts as guilty sounds racy to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: We should use a different name than "guilty", maybe just "bool
>>>>> canceled;" ?
>>>>>
>>>>> 4.Kick out this job from schedulerâ??s mirror list, so this job
>>>>> wonâ??t
>>>>> get re-scheduled to ring anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5.Kick out all jobs in this â??guiltyâ?? ctxâ??s KFIFO queue, and
>>>>> set all
>>>>> their fence status to â??*ECANCELED*â??
>>>>>
>>>>> Setting ECANCELED should be ok. But I think we should do this when
>>>>> we try to run the jobs and not during GPU reset.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6.Force signal all fences that get kicked out by above two
>>>>> steps,*otherwise UMD will block forever if waiting on those
>>>>> fences*
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> 7.Do gpu reset, which is can be some callbacks to let
>>>>> bare-metal and
>>>>> SR-IOV implement with their favor style
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> 8.After reset, KMD need to aware if the VRAM lost happens or
>>>>> not,
>>>>> bare-metal can implement some function to judge, while for
>>>>> SR-IOV I
>>>>> prefer to read it from GIM side (for initial version we consider
>>>>> itâ??s always VRAM lost, till GIM side change aligned)
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> 9.If VRAM lost not hit, continue, otherwise:
>>>>>
>>>>> a)Update adev->*vram_lost_counter*,
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> b)Iterate over all living ctx, and set all ctx as â??*guilty*â??
>>>>> since
>>>>> VRAM lost actually ruins all VRAM contents
>>>>>
>>>>> No, that shouldn't be done by comparing the counters. Iterating
>>>>> over all contexts is way to much overhead.
>>>>>
>>>>> c)Kick out all jobs in all ctxâ??s KFIFO queue, and set all their
>>>>> fence status to â??*ECANCELDED*â??
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and no, that should be done when we try to run the jobs and not
>>>>> during GPU reset.
>>>>>
>>>>> 10.Do GTT recovery and VRAM page tables/entries recovery
>>>>> (optional,
>>>>> do we need it ???)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that is still needed. As Nicolai explained we can't be sure
>>>>> that VRAM is still 100% correct even when it isn't cleared.
>>>>>
>>>>> 11.Re-schedule all JOBs remains in mirror list to ring again and
>>>>> restart scheduler (for VRAM lost case, no JOB will
>>>>> re-scheduled)
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> ?For cs_wait() IOCTL:
>>>>>
>>>>> After it found fence signaled, it should check with
>>>>> *â??dma_fence_get_statusâ?? *to see if there is error there,
>>>>>
>>>>> And return the error status of fence
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and no, dma_fence_get_status() is some specific handling for
>>>>> sync_file debugging (no idea why that made it into the common fence
>>>>> code).
>>>>>
>>>>> It was replaced by putting the error code directly into the fence,
>>>>> so just reading that one after waiting should be ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we should fix dma_fence_get_status() to do the right thing
>>>>> for this?
>>>>>
>>>>> ?For cs_wait_fences() IOCTL:
>>>>>
>>>>> Similar with above approach
>>>>>
>>>>> ?For cs_submit() IOCTL:
>>>>>
>>>>> It need to check if current ctx been marked as â??*guilty*â?? and
>>>>> return
>>>>> â??*ECANCELED*â?? if so
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Introduce a new IOCTL to let UMD query *vram_lost_counter*:
>>>>>
>>>>> This way, UMD can also block app from submitting, like @Nicolai
>>>>> mentioned, we can cache one copy of *vram_lost_counter* when
>>>>> enumerate physical device, and deny all
>>>>>
>>>>> gl-context from submitting if the counter queried bigger than
>>>>> that
>>>>> one cached in physical device. (looks a little overkill to
>>>>> me, but
>>>>> easy to implement )
>>>>>
>>>>> UMD can also return error to APP when creating gl-context if
>>>>> found
>>>>> current queried*vram_lost_counter *bigger than that one
>>>>> cached in
>>>>> physical device.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay. Already have a patch for this, please review that one if you
>>>>> haven't already done so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: I realized that gl-context is a little different with
>>>>> kernelâ??s
>>>>> context. Because for kernel. BO is not related with context
>>>>> but only
>>>>> with FD, while in UMD, BO have a backend
>>>>>
>>>>> gl-context, so block submitting in UMD layer is also needed
>>>>> although
>>>>> KMD will do its job as bottom line
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Basically â??vram_lost_counterâ?? is exposure by kernel to let
>>>>> UMD take
>>>>> the control of robust extension feature, it will be UMDâ??s
>>>>> call to
>>>>> move, KMD only deny â??guiltyâ?? context from submitting
>>>>>
>>>>> Need your feedback, thx
>>>>>
>>>>> Weâ??d better make TDR feature landed ASAP
>>>>>
>>>>> BR Monk
>>>>>
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