Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] alsa: make hw_params negotiation infrastructure 'bclk_ratio aware'

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Dne 08. 03. 19 v 18:22 Mark Brown napsal(a):
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 12:59:16PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 01:10:57PM +0900, Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> 
>>> In expectation of ALSA PCM interface for hardware for usual device:
>>>  - half number of phases of SCK per phase of WC
>>>    = physical_width of sample
>>>    = bytes per sample
> 
>> They are not the same thing.
> 
>> Let's take SNDRV_PCM_FORMAT_S16_LE.  The in-memory layout of this format
>> is two 16-bit samples next to each other in a single 32-bit word.  Their
>> width is 16, their physical_width is 16, and bytes per sample is 2.
> 
>> A CPU DAI can do one of two things:
> 
>> 1) it can generate exactly 16 SCK clock cycles per sample before WS
>>    changes state, leading to a total of 32 SCK clock cycles per
>>    frame.
> 
>> 2) it can generate more than 16 SCK clock cycles per sample.
> 
>> Both are entirely legal and permissable under the I2S specification.
>> Both look the same in memory.
> 
>> The ALSA format specification (SNDRV_PCM_FORMAT_*) does not specify
>> which of these two is used on the wire - it only specifies the in-
>> memory format.
> 
> Everything Russell is saying here is correct.  The actual
> ABI only affects the in memory format, userspace really shouldn't care
> what's going on on the wire.  However we don't have separate
> infrastructure for what goes on the wire and 90% of the time you can
> just translate the memory layout into a wire layout which works so we're
> conflating the two in a lot of places internally which is confusing and
> fragile.

I agree. We just need a library which will:

1) gather the information from hardware drivers
  - a simple description of the bclk constrains
2) create right constraints (hw_params rules) for the ALSA PCM API
3) return the selected bclk when hw_params are installed

The description of the bclk constraints from the hardware driver might
be min/max or a list of allowed wire format bit width * channels,
eventually define the wire formats (bitmask) and use them in this
library. I can imagine that all of those bclk contraints descriptions
(or any future, if there are such requirement) can be implemented in
this library.

The library should not extend hw_params (new interval), but it should
work as a separate layer - use new structures / functions etc.

					Jaroslav

-- 
Jaroslav Kysela <perex@xxxxxxxx>
Linux Sound Maintainer; ALSA Project; Red Hat, Inc.
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