Hi, On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 06:46:57AM +0000, S.j. Wang wrote: > I still have two questions: > 1. It seems the no-period-wakeup feature should be dropped for it isn't recommended > By alsa, right? I still found some driver in kernel support it, what's the reason? You can see the driver supports 'period-wakeup' runtime as well as 'no-period-wakeup' runtime. The driver likely includes a condition statement to check 'struct snd_pcm_runtime.no_period_wakeup' flag, then it switches own behaviour for both cases. Please keep it in your mind that 'period-wakeup' runtime is a default. At present, there's no way for drivers to tell userspace applications that 'period-wakeup' runtime is not supported. > 2. Shall we add this option in aplay for it is feature that alsa support, even it is optional? Initially 'no-period-wakeup' runtime was introduced to achieve timer-based scheduling model[1]. Current design of aplay is not suitable to this model in many points (e.g. value of timeout argument in each call of poll(2) system call). If adopting aplay to the model, heavy refactoring is required. For this reason, I'm not positive to your idea. It's not practical. However, just configuring hardware parameter with 'no-period-wakeup' flag, it's possible, as you posted. In this case, you misses some issues. At least: - alsa-lib configures the flag just for non-blocking operation. - alsa-lib calls poll(2) without timeout in many parts. When configuring the flag to PCM runtime, no tasks and IRQ contexts awaken the sleep process. Therefore processing of PCM frame is blocked forever in some cases. (A call of 'snd_pcm_sw_params_set_period_event()' expects 'hw' PCM plugin in alsa-lib to use ALSA timer interface for 'emulated' periodical wakeup, however an instance of timer is for the PCM runtime with 'no-period-wakeup' thus it can't awakens the sleep process. I think this is a bug in alsa-lib.) [1] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/pulse-glitch-free.html [2] https://github.com/alsa-project/alsa-utils/blob/master/axfer/xfer-libasound-timer-mmap.c#L22 Thanks Takashi Sakamoto _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
