On 11/28/2018 09:46 PM, Pali Rohár wrote: > On Wednesday 28 November 2018 21:34:10 Pavel Machek wrote: >> Hi! >> >>>>>>> Looks good... except one detail: you have "tpacpi::micmute" and >>>>>>> "dell::micmute". I know it follows "tradition", but we are trying to >>>>>>> fix that at the moment. Laptop micmute button is a laptop micmute >>>>>>> button, and userspace should not need to know what prefix to use >>>>>>> depending on vendor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd suggest using "sys::micmute". >>>>>> >>>>>> I can imagine that in future some devices like keyboards would have also >>>>>> mute led. We already have keyboards with mute key, so it is something >>>>>> not unrealistic. What should be name convention for these mute leds? >>>>>> >>>>>> Is not "sys::" prefix too generic? >>>>> >>>>> Good point. I thought of "laptop::" but it's not always laptop. >>>>> "builtin::"? Doesn't sound great, either. >>>>> >>>>> A nice godfather is required here... >>>> >>>> Just use sys:: :-). >>>> >>>> laptop:: would work for me, too. (It is always laptop in the cases we >>>> are handling now, right?) >>>> >>>> When we get a keyboard with mute led, we'll have to decide if it >>>> should be input6::mute -- because it is on keyboard, or if it is >>>> sys::mute -- because the key is expected to mute whole system. >>> >>> drivers/input/input-leds.c seems to already support mute LED. >>> It will be exposed as inputN::mute. >>> >>> Documentation/leds/leds-class.txt defines LED naming pattern >>> to <devicename:color:function> and "sys" does not look as >>> something resembling device name. >> >> So what is your suggestion? > > I guess we should follow documentation. Or update documentation if it > does not make sense to follow it. > >> I don't care much as long as it is same in tpacpi and dell >> case. (Neither are device names, btw :-). >> >> Actually "::mute" would make sense, too. > > "::mute" is not a good idea due to name uniqueness. LED core adds a numerical suffix to the original name if it is already taken. Of course it is a last resort just to avoid name clash. > In case you would have two drivers which both provides "mute" led, then > they need to have different name. Reason also why generic name "sys" is > not a good idea. > > input subsystem seems to solved this problem by appending number after > "input" word. > > I think that driver name or subsystem name would be usable together with > number. > > Userspace application would be probably interested to distinguish > between "mute led which is part of laptop" and "mute led which is > available on external USB keyboard". > > If external USB keyboard is identified as "input7" device, then > "input7::mute" is a good name for mute key. But "sys::mute" does not say > anything to which device or hardware it belongs nor does not solve > problem that which device/driver/subsystem should have privilege to take > this "sys" name. How about just "platform" for the LEDs being part of the device on which the system is running? -- Best regards, Jacek Anaszewski _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
