Hi Cheng-yi, [adding Maxime, devicetree to Cc:, the old discussion about GPIO resets in [4] has never been resolved] On Tue, 2018-10-09 at 21:46 +0800, Cheng-yi Chiang wrote: > +reset controller maintainer Philipp > > Hi Mark, > Sorry for the late reply. It took me a while to investigate reset > controller and its possible usage. I would like to figure out the > proper way of reset handling because it is common to have a shared > reset line for two max98927 codecs for left and right channels. > Without supporting this usage, a simple reset-gpios change for single > codec would not be useful, and perhaps will be duplicated if reset > controller is a better way. > > Hi Philipp, > I would like to seek your advice about whether we can use reset > controller to support the use case where multiple devices share the > same reset line. > > Let me summarize the use case: > There are two max98927 codecs sharing the same reset line. > The reset line is controlled by a GPIO. > The goal is to toggle reset line once and only once. > > There was a similar scenario in tlv320aic3x codec driver [1]. > A static list is used in the codec driver so probe function can know > whether it is needed to toggle reset line. > Mark pointed out that it is not suitable to handle the shared reset > line inside codec driver. > A point is that this only works for multiple devices using the same > device driver. > He suggested to look into reset controller so I searched through the > usage for common reset line. > > Here I found a shared reset line use case [2]. > With the patch [2], reset_control_reset can support this “reset once > and for all” use case. This patch was applied as 7da33a37b48f. So the reset framework has support for shared reset controls where only the first reset request actually causes a reset pulse, and all others are no-ops. > However, I found that there are some missing pieces: > > Let’s assume there are two codecs c1 and c2 sharing a reset line > controlled by GPIO. > > c1’s spec: > Hold time: The minimum time to assert the reset line is t_a1. > Release time: The minimum time to access the chip after deassert of > the reset line is t_d1. > > c2’s spec: > Hold time: The minimum time to assert the reset line is t_a2. > Release time: The minimum time to access the chip after deassert of > the reset line is t_d2. > > For both c1 and c2 to work properly, we need a reset controller that > can assert the reset line for > T = max(t_a1, t_a2). > > 1. We need reset controller to support GPIO. I still don't like the idea of describing a separate gpio reset controller "device" in DT very much, as this is really just a software abstraction, not actual hardware. For example: gpio_reset: reset-controller { compatible = "gpio-reset"; reset-gpios = <&gpio0 15 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>, <&gpio1 16 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>; reset-delays-us = <10000>, <500>; }; c1 { resets = <&gpio_reset 0>; /* maps to <&gpio0 15 ...> */ }; c2 { resets = <&gpio_reset 0>; }; What I would like better would be to let the consumers keep their reset- gpios bindings, but add an optional hold time override in the DT: c1 { reset-gpios = <&gpio0 15 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>; reset-delays-us = <10000>; }; c2 { reset-gpios = <&gpio0 15 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>; re set-delays-us = <10000>; }; The reset framework could create a reset_control backed by a gpio instead of a rcdev. I have an unfinished patch for this, but without the sharing requirement adding the reset framework abstraction between gpiod and drivers never seemed really worth it. > 2. We need to specify hold time T to reset controller in device tree > so it knows that it needs hold reset line for that long in its > implementation of reset_control_reset. Agreed. Ideally, I'd like to make this optional, and have the drivers continue to provide the hold time if they think they know it. > 3. Assuming we have 1 and 2 in place. In codec driver of c1, it can > call reset_control_reset and wait for t_a1 + t_d1. In codec driver of > c2, it can call reset_control_reset and wait for t_a2 + t_d2. The reset framework should wait for the configured assertion time, max(t_a1, t_a2). The drivers only should only have to wait for t_d1 / t_d2 after reset_control_reset returns. > We need to wait for hold time + release time because > triggered_count is increased before reset ops is called. When the > second driver finds that triggered_count is 1 and skip the real reset > operation, reset ops might just begin doing its work a short time ago. That is a good point. Maybe the reset framework should just wait for the hold time even for the second reset. Another possibility would be to serialize them with a mutex. > I am not sure whether we would need a flag in reset controller to > mark that "reset is done". When driver sees this flag is done, it can > just wait for release time instead of hold time + release time. Let's not complicate the drivers with this too much. I think reset_control_reset should guarantee that the reset line is not asserted anymore upon return. > And I found that you already solved 1 and mentioned the > possible usage of 2 in [3]. > There were discussion about letting device driver to deal with > reset-gpios by itself in [4], but it seems that reset controller can > better deal with the shared reset line situation. > Maybe we could revive the patch of GPIO support for reset controller ? The discussion with Maxime in [4] hasn't really been resolved. I still think the reset-gpios property should be kept, and the reset framework could adapt to it. This is something the device tree maintainers' input would be welcome on. > Please let me know what direction I should look into. > Thanks a lot! > > [1] http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-November/033246.html > https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9424123/ > > [2] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9424123/ > > [3] https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/455839/ > > [4] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/3978121/ regards Philipp _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel