Re: [PATCH 0/3] ALSA: Add the explicit appl_ptr sync support

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Hi,

On Jun 21 2017 22:10, Takashi Iwai wrote:
However, when running with patched alsa-lib[1], due to a commit
f8ff2f28ba49 ("ALSA: pcm: Skip ack callback without actual appl_ptr
update")[2], callback functions in driver side for .ack are not called
from ioctl handler in ALSA PCM core. When page frames for control data
of PCM substream is mapped to VMA of the application, the application
updates the value of pointer in the frame, then transfer the value via
ioctl. Comparing these two values should be the same and ALSA PCM core
skip the callback.

Oh, that's a damn good point.

Currently alsa-lib issues sync_ptr() also for obtaining the PCM state
from the kernel, and this also triggers ack unless SYNC_APPL_PTR flag
is set.  The commit f8ff2f28ba49 tried to reduce the ack calls  by
filtering in pcm_lib_apply_appl_ptr() side, but it has a side-effect
as you noticed.

There can be a few options to cover this for the newer alsa-lib, for
example:

A. Add a new bit flag to sync_ptr() allowing only the state update
    and/or the explicit applptr update.

B. Introduce a completely new ioctl for the appl_ptr sync.

C. Keep disabling control mmap while allowing state mmap.

D. Track the last appl_ptr individually from runtime->control->appl_ptr
    and compare/update with this value in pcm_lib_apply_appl_ptr().

E. Remove the filtering from pcm_lib_apply_appl_ptr(), let each driver
    optimize if needed.

Currently I'm thinking of (A), but open for all and other possible
options.  All these may need the check of user_pversion so that the
old code still works as is.

I prefer C) and I'm working for it, because protocol validation of userland is not needed in kernel land, as long as I understand. But if allowed to add more changes to protocol/interface, A) and B) could be within my candidates.

... and, while testing the patchset today, I noticed a bug in the
user_pversion check.  Namely, the user_pversion check must not be done
against a substream.  A substream may be shared among multiple
processes (typically by dmix), and changing from one process may hit
others when it's set in the substream object.  For identifying the
setup for each stream (from the user-space POV), the flag has to be
stored in snd_pcm_file instead, just like no_compat_mmap flag.

Oh, I overlooked a case of open(2) with O_APPEND, as well. I also think it reasonable to utilize the private data of file descriptor for this purpose, good.

That said, I have to respin a new patch in anyway, at least for the
patches 2 & 3 :) I'll leave your reviewed-by tag from these, please
review the new patchset again.  Sorry for doubly works.

No worry.


Thanks

Takashi Sakamoto
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