On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 10:09:23AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 2017 08:18:21 +0200, > Subhransu S. Prusty wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 01:06:57PM +0530, Subhransu S. Prusty wrote: > > > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 07:56:44AM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > On Tue, 16 May 2017 03:01:57 +0200, > > > > Subhransu S. Prusty wrote: > > > > > > > > > > From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > When appl_ptr is updated let low-level driver know, e.g. to let the > > > > > low-level driver/hardware pre-fetch data opportunistically. > > > > > > > > > > The existing .ack callback is extended with new attribute argument, to > > > > > support this capability. Legacy driver subscribe to SND_PCM_ACK_LEGACY and > > > > > doesn't process ack if it is not set. SND_PCM_ACK_APP_PTR can be used to > > > > > process the application ptr update in the driver like in the skylake > > > > > driver which can use this to inform position of appl pointer to host DMA > > > > > controller. The skylake driver to process the SND_PCM_ACK_APP_PTR will be > > > > > submitted with a separate patch set. > > > > > > > > > > In the ALSA core, this capability is independent from the NO_REWIND > > > > > hardware flag. The low-level driver may however tie both options and only > > > > > use the updated appl_ptr when rewinds are disabled due to hardware > > > > > limitations. > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Jaikrishna Nemallapudi <jaikrishnax.nemallapudi@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Subhransu S. Prusty <subhransu.s.prusty@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > It might be me who suggested the extension of the ack ops, but now > > > > looking at the result, I reconsider whether it'd be a better choice if > > > > we add another ops (e.g. update_appl_ptr()) instead. Could you try to > > > > rewrite the patch in that way for comparison? > > > > > > Here is the version using update_appl_ptr. > > > > Hi Takashi, > > > > Did you get a chance to look at the update_appl_ptr changes? > > Please let us know which one will be preferable, will submit the patches > > accordingly. > > Now I have a mixed feeling. Using ack() is basically "the right > thing". The update of appl_ptr in forward/rewind and sync_ptr should > be notified to ack() in general. It's the purpose of ack(), after > all. In that sense, we may call ack() without any argument from any > places. > > The only problem is that the rewind is broken on some drivers, and > calling ack() may lead to unexpected results. Precisely the reason we went with an arg to make it opt-in and ensure existing drivers don't break > That is, we should look at these existing drivers and handle the > rewind case (negative appl_ptr diff) appropriately -- or maybe we > should add a flag to disallow the rewind on such drivers. > After that, ack() can be called safely from all places that update > appl_ptr. Testing a large set of those drivers will be an issue :( > ... this is one way. Another way is to allow a quick hack and doubly > call a new callback. Sorry but how would invoking twice help here? > > I prefer the former, but obviously it'll take longer. So it depends > on urgency. We have been going back and forth on this for at least couple of years now, so I would really love this to get merged before next window :) -- ~Vinod _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel