Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] pulseaudio fails to start with kernel 4.11, caused by new snd_hdmi_lpe_audio module)

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Hi,

On 21-03-17 10:04, Arun Raghavan wrote:


On Tue, 21 Mar 2017, at 02:26 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,

On 21-03-17 08:54, Arun Raghavan wrote:
On Tue, 21 Mar 2017, at 11:10 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 00:09:22 +0100,
Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:

On 3/20/17 4:52 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:42:58 +0100,
Hans de Goede wrote:

Hi,

Lately I've been working on fixing various issues people
are having with baytrail / cherrytrail devices. One thing
I noticed when moving my testing / development to 4.11 is
that pulseaudio does not work (it aborts while starting)
this seemed to be caused by the new snd_hdmi_lpe_audio
module. If I blacklist that all is fine. Any idea what
is causing this ?

I noticed it once, too, but I had no time to check further.
More interestingly, PA works fine when LPE audio is the single driver
(i.e. blacklist Intel SST instead), too.  So it's more likely a bug in
PA.

What happens when you modprobe LPE audio driver after starting the
session?  If it kills PA, we can debug more easily :)

I've seen this as well, I could get either one of the two but not
both, could this be due to the fact that one set of mixers is
configured with UCM and the other driver isn't configured by UCM?

No idea, and I had still no time to check (still processing the
pile of pending mails and other bugs :).  Let me add PA guys to Cc.

Not sure if anyone here has the hardware and I haven't seen any
complaints either -- having a backtrace (or even location of the assert)
would be a good start.

Ok, this is weird. Since you were asking for more info I tried to
collect a backtrace / logs. But what is happening is that after
the snd_hdmi_lpe_audio module loads, pulse does its thing and
then exits with a message of "killed" in gdb / on the terminal
from which I started it. I don't get a chance to get a backtrace
in gdb ...  So this does feel like a kernel bug to me, normally
this sort of "killed" behavior is seen on some kernel oopses...

But dmesg is free of any oopses ?

Anyways here is a log of pulseaudio -v first without the
hdmi module and then the module gets probed. Where the log
abruptly ends is where I got the "Killed" message on the
terminal.

That's the kernel killing of PA for exceeding RT limits (there's a patch
in the timers tip that'll now provide an error in dmesg).

It sounds possible that there is some call to the ALSA API that we are
making that results in the driver blocking for long enough to exceed the
RT limit. You can verify this by setting 'realtime-scheduling = no' in
/etc/pulse/daemon.conf and then starting PA.

If that works,

Yep that works, good call.

perf will likely be able to show you what's blocking.

I'm not all that familiar with perf, can you provide me with
a perf cmdline to start pulseaudio with which will generate a log
file with the info you are looking for ?

Regards,

Hans

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