I will keep this brief. When things get to the point where every post one makes to alsa-devel is responded to with personal attacks, disdain, contempt or hostility, where one's extensive practical and technical experience is dismissed as being invalid at every opportunity, and one is consequently anxious about reading the responses to one's posts in alsa-devel, it's clearly time to walk away. Sadly, this is the situation I find myself in so walking away is what I will do once this message has been posted. Moving firewire audio streaming functionality into the kernel has been a long term goal of the FFADO project. Having a decade of experience working successfully with these devices under Linux through FFADO and its predecessors, I was planning to lend assistance to the ALSA firewire streaming driver development effort. Unfortunately, it has become abundantly clear that for some reason this is not welcomed (or even tolerated) by some, so instead I will devote my time to the maintenance of FFADO and my other Open Source projects. Although *extremely* miniscule in comparison to the deplorable harassment directed toward others in the Open Source community in the past, the treatment I have received has given me a fresh perspective on the effect that continued attacks can have on a person's attitude to life, and why many good developers have completely turned their back on the entire Open Source movement when faced with these kinds of issues. The Open Source community has wonderfully awesome people, but it is clear how the misdirected actions of a few can so easily drive people away. I wish the ALSA project well for its future work, and urge project members to treat all participants with the basic human rights of respect and dignity which were not afforded to me over the past two years on alsa-devel. Regards jonathan _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel