On 2010-11-22 09:51, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:42:46 +0100,
David Henningsson wrote:
On 2010-11-22 07:50, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:29:37 +0100,
David Henningsson wrote:
Since "Front" controls headphones as well on these two codecs,
they should be labeled "Master Front" in order to be handled correct
by PulseAudio.
Well, "Front" doesn't mean the physical output but rather the output
channels. So, it doesn't conflict with the fact that this control
actually changes all outputs, as long as the output jacks are of front
channels. In that sense, even "Surround" is also a sort of Master
control.
That being said, I'm not happy with this rename. If any, we should
try to get rid of unnecessary front volume control. But, just because
PA gets confused doesn't sound like a right reason.
Could you give the alsa-info.sh output for checking what mixer elements
are created?
As you know PulseAudio needs consistent naming of volume controls, and
this is not expressed clearly enough in the docs, so, what would you
call a volume control that controls a front-line-out, but does not
control a front-speaker or a front-headphone?
What do you mean "front" in this context? Is it the front 2 channels
out of 4.0 or 5.1 output? Or do you mean the physical location of
the output? Front/Surround/Center/LFE are the former case. They are
controls independent from the physical output locations (per
definition).
I guess this confusion came up because of the mix-up with front
channel and front panel. We've used "Front Mic" in some places, for
example, which increases the confusion.
Good point. I think the reasoning so far is to refer to channels for
output and location for input.
Anyway, what I meant was "Front" channel (not location), so let me
rephrase my question into two:
1) If I find a volume control (or mute switch) labeled "Front", should I
assume that it controls, or does not control, headphone output? How
about internal speakers?
2) Assume I have a volume control (or mute switch) which controls only
the front line-out, not headphones, and not speakers. How should I name it?
PulseAudio assumes that if
a control is named "Front", it does just that. So that's why I would
prefer a rename to "Master Front".
As for alsa-info output, I believe anything in hda-emu/codecs/alc861vd-*
would do, as they have nsteps=0 on NIDs 0x0c - 0x0f.
Yeah, the output with your first patch would be helpful.
Unfortunately I don't have access to the actual hardware at the moment,
so I'm attaching a codec dump from the hardware before the patch.
Running it against current HEAD, with today's patch from Kailang in,
probably makes hda-emu take the wrong code path (since hda-emu can't
read proc coefs).
--
David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd.
http://launchpad.net/~diwic
Codec: Realtek ALC887
Address: 0
Function Id: 0x1
Vendor Id: 0x10ec0887
Subsystem Id: 0x102804aa
Revision Id: 0x100302
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
rates [0x5f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
GPIO: io=2, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=1, wake=0
IO[0]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
IO[1]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x41d: Stereo Amp-Out
Device: name="ALC887 Analog", type="Audio", device=0
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
Amp-Out vals: [0x40 0x40]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x41d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
Amp-Out vals: [0x40 0x40]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x04 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x41d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
Amp-Out vals: [0x40 0x40]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x05 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x41d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
Amp-Out vals: [0x40 0x40]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x06 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x611: Stereo Digital
Control: name="IEC958 Playback Con Mask", index=0, device=0
Control: name="IEC958 Playback Pro Mask", index=0, device=0
Control: name="IEC958 Playback Default", index=0, device=0
Control: name="IEC958 Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
Control: name="IEC958 Default PCM Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
Device: name="ALC887 Digital", type="SPDIF", device=1
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
Digital: Enabled
Digital category: 0x0
PCM:
rates [0x5f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x07 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x08 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10051b: Stereo Amp-In
Control: name="Capture Switch", index=0, device=0
Control: name="Capture Volume", index=0, device=0
Device: name="ALC887 Analog", type="Audio", device=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x10, nsteps=0x2e, stepsize=0x03, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x0a 0x0a]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
SDI-Select: 0
PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 1
0x23
Node 0x09 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x10051b: Stereo Amp-In
Control: name="Capture Switch", index=1, device=0
Control: name="Capture Volume", index=1, device=0
Device: name="ALC887 Analog", type="Audio", device=2
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x10, nsteps=0x2e, stepsize=0x03, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
SDI-Select: 0
PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 1
0x22
Node 0x0a [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100711: Stereo Digital
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
SDI-Select: 0
Digital:
Digital category: 0x0
PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 1
0x1f
Node 0x0b [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
Control: name="Mic Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=0, ofs=0
Control: name="Mic Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=0, ofs=0
Control: name="Front Mic Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=1, ofs=0
Control: name="Front Mic Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=1, ofs=0
Control: name="Line Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=2, ofs=0
Control: name="Line Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=2, ofs=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
Connection: 10
0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17
Node 0x0c [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
Control: name="Front Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=Out, idx=0, ofs=0
Control: name="Front Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=2, ofs=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
Connection: 2
0x02 0x0b
Node 0x0d [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
Control: name="Surround Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=Out, idx=0, ofs=0
Control: name="Surround Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=2, ofs=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
Connection: 2
0x03 0x0b
Node 0x0e [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
Control: name="Center Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=1, dir=Out, idx=0, ofs=0
Control: name="LFE Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=2, dir=Out, idx=0, ofs=0
Control: name="Center Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=1, dir=In, idx=2, ofs=0
Control: name="LFE Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=2, dir=In, idx=2, ofs=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
Connection: 2
0x04 0x0b
Node 0x0f [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
Control: name="Side Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=Out, idx=0, ofs=0
Control: name="Side Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=2, ofs=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
Connection: 2
0x05 0x0b
Node 0x10 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x611: Stereo Digital
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
Digital:
Digital category: 0x0
PCM:
rates [0x5f0]: 32000 44100 48000 88200 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x11 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400781: Stereo Digital
Pincap 0x00000014: OUT Detect
Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
Misc = NO_PRESENCE
Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 1
0x10
Node 0x12 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400401: Stereo
Pincap 0x00000020: IN
Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
Misc = NO_PRESENCE
Pin-ctls: 0x00:
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x13 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x14 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00]
Pincap 0x0001003e: IN OUT HP EAPD Detect Trigger
EAPD 0x0:
Pin Default 0x01014010: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Green
DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0
Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 1
0x0c
Node 0x15 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00]
Pincap 0x00000036: IN OUT Detect Trigger
Pin Default 0x01011012: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x2
Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 1
0x0d
Node 0x16 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00]
Pincap 0x00000036: IN OUT Detect Trigger
Pin Default 0x01016011: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Orange
DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x1
Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 1
0x0e
Node 0x17 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00]
Pincap 0x00000036: IN OUT Detect Trigger
Pin Default 0x01012014: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Grey
DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x4
Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 1
0x0f
Node 0x18 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
Control: name="Mic Boost", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=0, ofs=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00]
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80]
Pincap 0x00003736: IN OUT Detect Trigger
Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 100
Pin Default 0x01a19830: [Jack] Mic at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
DefAssociation = 0x3, Sequence = 0x0
Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN VREF_80
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 5
0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x19 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
Control: name="Front Mic Boost", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=In, idx=0, ofs=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00]
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80]
Pincap 0x0000373e: IN OUT HP Detect Trigger
Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 100
Pin Default 0x02a19831: [Jack] Mic at Ext Front
Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
DefAssociation = 0x3, Sequence = 0x1
Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN VREF_80
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 5
0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x1a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00]
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80]
Pincap 0x00003736: IN OUT Detect Trigger
Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 100
Pin Default 0x0181303f: [Jack] Line In at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Blue
DefAssociation = 0x3, Sequence = 0xf
Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN VREF_HIZ
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 5
0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x1b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058f: Stereo Amp-In Amp-Out
Control: name="Headphone Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=Out, idx=0, ofs=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00]
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80]
Pincap 0x0001373e: IN OUT HP EAPD Detect Trigger
Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80 100
EAPD 0x0:
Pin Default 0x0221401f: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Front
Conn = 1/8, Color = Green
DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0xf
Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP VREF_HIZ
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 5
0x0c* 0x0d 0x0e 0x0f 0x26
Node 0x1c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400481: Stereo
Pincap 0x00000024: IN Detect
Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
Misc = NO_PRESENCE
Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x1d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400400: Mono
Pincap 0x00000020: IN
Pin Default 0x4005e601: [N/A] Line Out at Ext N/A
Conn = Optical, Color = White
DefAssociation = 0x0, Sequence = 0x1
Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x1e [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400781: Stereo Digital
Pincap 0x00000014: OUT Detect
Pin Default 0x01451120: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear
Conn = Optical, Color = Black
DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0x0
Misc = NO_PRESENCE
Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Connection: 1
0x06
Node 0x1f [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400681: Stereo Digital
Pincap 0x00000024: IN Detect
Pin Default 0x411111f0: [N/A] Speaker at Ext Rear
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
Misc = NO_PRESENCE
Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x20 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00040: Mono
Processing caps: benign=0, ncoeff=24
Node 0x21 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x22 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
Control: name="Input Source", index=1, device=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
Connection: 12
0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 0x0b 0x12
Node 0x23 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
Control: name="Input Source", index=0, device=0
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x00 0x00] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80]
Connection: 11
0x18 0x19 0x1a 0x1b 0x1c 0x1d 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 0x0b
Node 0x24 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Node 0x25 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x41d: Stereo Amp-Out
Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x40, nsteps=0x40, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
Amp-Out vals: [0x40 0x40]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
PCM:
rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Power states: D0 D1 D2 D3 EPSS
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x26 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In
Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1
Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00]
Connection: 2
0x25 0x0b
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